forum Let's talk about the most controversial shit

Started February 11, 2019 by @SaltyLasagna

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Nah. They would soil the hand of those who whacked them, it wouldn't be fair to the whacker.

I'd totally punch them in the face if I could

Nah. They would soil the hand of those who whacked them, it wouldn't be fair to the whacker.

I'd totally punch them in the face if I could

Thanks Jensy!

Soooo…

Debating

You really want this don't you.

I’m just bored out of my brains because no one’s online

Hmm. It's just a lazy Sunday I guess. I found my guitar pick which has extreme sentimental value which I had lost. That made me a lot happier.

Are we still gonna debate stuff?

If your ready for some serious explosive type.

Wym?

When I say stuff that makes people mad.

Yeah. I should probably enforce that "no negativity" rule I put up on like the first post

Yeah, I'm kinda bored so I've decided to start this thread where we can debate about really controversial topics. All I ask is that everybody is respectful and civil. If things start to get heated, we'll move on, and if anybody tries to be a bitch about one topic and refuses to let it go, I'll just delete this whole thread. Don't be a bitch, you'll ruin in for everyone.

Here it is

All right. I'm going to warn everyone who will get pissed. This is my legal protection. You read the fricken thing instead of walking away. In other words. You have been warned.

now I'm confused

Okay enough stalling. We're getting controversial!

Well there is no choice in being trans. It doesn't really matter whether you think it's illogical or dumb. It's just how it is.

I think it doesn't exist and it is unscientific.

Yeah, as a trans non binary person here, I strongly disagree. But I'm going to need a bit more than "it's dumb and illogical" to make an actual argument.

I think it doesn't exist and it is unscientific.

You think it doesn't exist. Have you don't research on that? What's unscientific about it? The fact that we're born with certain chromosomes so we shouldn't be able to change our gender? There are intersex people and people with abnormal gender chromosomes who would disagree.
There's also the fact that gender isn't based off chromosomes. Your sex is based off of chromosomes. Gender is related to how your brain develops- masculine or feminine. Typically, males develop masculine brains and females develop feminine brains, but in rare cases, males will develop feminine brains/females will develop masculine brains. Sometimes people will develop something that's neither masculine nor feminine. That's why people are trans. When people's brain structure doesn't match their sex, it causes a mental illness called gender dysphoria to develop. And unfortunately, since it's a part of somebody's brain structure, it can't really be cured or changed. The best we can do for people whose brain structure doesn't match their chromosomes is offer them treatment and support (which means allowing people to transition and not making them feel bad about it).

Nice!

Well you can say what you want about gender and that's all cool I guess. But if you are not a genetic anomaly you are either male or female. Correct?

When it comes to your biological sex, yes. I agree that you can't change that.
But there is a huge difference between gender and biological sex. Like I said, gender is based on your brain structure. Biological sex is based on your chromosomes.

Well then you cannot be a male if you are born female because male and female are the biological words to differentiate between the sexes, correct?

No, you can't be biologically male if you are born female. I literally just said that. Nobody can change their biological sex, we just don't have the technology.
But I never said anything about changing your biological sex.

But male is a biological term. So you're either male or you're not. And if you're born one that is what you are. You can identify as whatever you like. But you would still be a male because that is the biological classification of what you are.