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@RedTheLoveless

Like I said. Children. Your parents control/ regulate everything else in your life, why would the internet be any different?

They don't really control much, at least in my household. They let my brother and me do what we please most of the time, as long as we have common sense. We work as a family unit, only divided by the people who can drive and who cannot (my dad and I are the only ones who can really drive at this point). Ever since we hit 14-15 years of age, they began to treat us like adults so we know how to manage and monitor ourselves. What good is parental monitoring if the children don't learn responsibility of themselves? What good is an 18-year-old who is sneaky, doesn't trust their parents/authority figures, or even worse, doesn't even know how to function like an adult?

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

My education system is just "Sit around and maybe read some Bible history so it looks like I'm learning" because my mom is usually very busy and can't just sit down and teach us, so we teach ourselves.

I've been there.

This…cannot be legal.

Don't worry. I came out of there first off and my fam was pretty lax. We pretty much always learn more than the people in public schools because we get to choose what we learn and have a much wider variety. Also 98% of what you learn is a waste they say. Plus on average we do better. I got into the presidents list at my college on my first quarter when I was the most stressed and out of my comfort and still not understanding things.
Plus there is the joke that homeschoolers don't know what summa cum laude means until you get it.

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My education system is just "Sit around and maybe read some Bible history so it looks like I'm learning" because my mom is usually very busy and can't just sit down and teach us, so we teach ourselves.

I've been there.

This…cannot be legal.

Don't worry. I came out of there first off and my fam was pretty lax. We pretty much always learn more than the people in public schools because we get to choose what we learn and have a much wider variety. Also 98% of what you learn is a waste they say. Plus on average we do better. I got into the presidents list at my college on my first quarter when I was the most stressed and out of my comfort and still not understanding things.
Plus there is the joke that homeschoolers don't know what summa cum laude means until you get it.

From what I've heard of your home school life there is order and structure. the above…does not sound like that.

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Like I said. Children. Your parents control/ regulate everything else in your life, why would the internet be any different?

They don't really control much, at least in my household. They let my brother and me do what we please most of the time, as long as we have common sense. We work as a family unit, only divided by the people who can drive and who cannot (my dad and I are the only ones who can really drive at this point). Ever since we hit 14-15 years of age, they began to treat us like adults so we know how to manage and monitor ourselves. What good is parental monitoring if the children don't learn responsibility of themselves? What good is an 18-year-old who is sneaky, doesn't trust their parents/authority figures, or even worse, doesn't even know how to function like an adult?

And that is good parenting. Teaching your children how to be adults. But they still watch over you. Guide you. Even if you dont think that they are monitoring what you do in life I promise that they are.
How often to teens/youth use the media to actually learn things about being a functioning adult? Honestly. I'm sure that percentage is very low. Regulation and monitoring is not bad. Not at all.

@The-N-U-T-Cracker

My education system is just "Sit around and maybe read some Bible history so it looks like I'm learning" because my mom is usually very busy and can't just sit down and teach us, so we teach ourselves.

I've been there.

This…cannot be legal.

Don't worry. I came out of there first off and my fam was pretty lax. We pretty much always learn more than the people in public schools because we get to choose what we learn and have a much wider variety. Also 98% of what you learn is a waste they say. Plus on average we do better. I got into the presidents list at my college on my first quarter when I was the most stressed and out of my comfort and still not understanding things.
Plus there is the joke that homeschoolers don't know what summa cum laude means until you get it.

From what I've heard of your home school life there is order and structure. the above…does not sound like that.

I kinda exaggerated a little… I do get quite a lot done, in fact just yesterday I finished an entire book all in one day that I wasn't supposed to complete for another few months. I'm far ahead on some subjects (Spelling, Religion, possibly Vocabulary) and behind on others (MAAAATTTTHHHHH).

@SaltyLasagna

Like I said. Children. Your parents control/ regulate everything else in your life, why would the internet be any different?

They don't really control much, at least in my household. They let my brother and me do what we please most of the time, as long as we have common sense. We work as a family unit, only divided by the people who can drive and who cannot (my dad and I are the only ones who can really drive at this point). Ever since we hit 14-15 years of age, they began to treat us like adults so we know how to manage and monitor ourselves. What good is parental monitoring if the children don't learn responsibility of themselves? What good is an 18-year-old who is sneaky, doesn't trust their parents/authority figures, or even worse, doesn't even know how to function like an adult?

And that is good parenting. Teaching your children how to be adults. But they still watch over you. Guide you. Even if you dont think that they are monitoring what you do in life I promise that they are.
How often to teens/youth use the media to actually learn things about being a functioning adult? Honestly. I'm sure that percentage is very low. Regulation and monitoring is not bad. Not at all.

What about strict and controlling parents? Parents that don't communicate with their children? Parents that have a very bad relationship with their children? Parents that punish their children out of spite and control them not to keep them safe or prepare them for adult life, but just because they like having control?

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Like I said. Children. Your parents control/ regulate everything else in your life, why would the internet be any different?

They don't really control much, at least in my household. They let my brother and me do what we please most of the time, as long as we have common sense. We work as a family unit, only divided by the people who can drive and who cannot (my dad and I are the only ones who can really drive at this point). Ever since we hit 14-15 years of age, they began to treat us like adults so we know how to manage and monitor ourselves. What good is parental monitoring if the children don't learn responsibility of themselves? What good is an 18-year-old who is sneaky, doesn't trust their parents/authority figures, or even worse, doesn't even know how to function like an adult?

And that is good parenting. Teaching your children how to be adults. But they still watch over you. Guide you. Even if you dont think that they are monitoring what you do in life I promise that they are.
How often to teens/youth use the media to actually learn things about being a functioning adult? Honestly. I'm sure that percentage is very low. Regulation and monitoring is not bad. Not at all.

What about strict and controlling parents? Parents that don't communicate with their children? Parents that have a very bad relationship with their children? Parents that punish their children out of spite and control them not to keep them safe or prepare them for adult life, but just because they like having control?

^^^^^^

unfortunately that’s what I was thinking when I said I had a biased view

@HighPockets group

Mostly because they are an awesome theory, but kind of ineffective. Plus all those who get them become carriers, putting everyone at risk. Plus sometimes people get really sick from them.

Yeah but I'd rather get a small fever from a vaccine than die of polio, so…shrugs

Deleted user

Like I said. Children. Your parents control/ regulate everything else in your life, why would the internet be any different?

They don't really control much, at least in my household. They let my brother and me do what we please most of the time, as long as we have common sense. We work as a family unit, only divided by the people who can drive and who cannot (my dad and I are the only ones who can really drive at this point). Ever since we hit 14-15 years of age, they began to treat us like adults so we know how to manage and monitor ourselves. What good is parental monitoring if the children don't learn responsibility of themselves? What good is an 18-year-old who is sneaky, doesn't trust their parents/authority figures, or even worse, doesn't even know how to function like an adult?

And that is good parenting. Teaching your children how to be adults. But they still watch over you. Guide you. Even if you dont think that they are monitoring what you do in life I promise that they are.
How often to teens/youth use the media to actually learn things about being a functioning adult? Honestly. I'm sure that percentage is very low. Regulation and monitoring is not bad. Not at all.

What about strict and controlling parents? Parents that don't communicate with their children? Parents that have a very bad relationship with their children? Parents that punish their children out of spite and control them not to keep them safe or prepare them for adult life, but just because they like having control?

You guys do know that is a very and I mean very low percentage of parents now a days right? Having strict parents isn't a bad thing, they literally are preparing you for life. Because life doesn't give you shit. Life controls everything you want and do. Having parents that let you do whatever the hell you want and don't guide you are doing the worst kind of disservice ever.
Communication is an interesting thing to bring up. I think you should clarify about what the parent needs to communicate to their child about. Because in a logical opinion, parents don't need to tell their kids anything. Unless you want to sit down and talk about bills, jobs you don't understand, their sex lives, familial drama, taxes, politics that have nothing to do with children, etc. Then yea sure. But in truth, they are the adult and they don't need to be told what to do by children.
Everyone blames the parents for bad situations/relationships with children, but honestly it goes both ways. If you're an ass to your parents their going to be an ass back. It's that simple. Humans in general are like that. In all relationships in life, you have to work at it. Nothing is easy.
Parents are not the bad guys that teenagers make them out to be.
I thought had the strictest parents you could think of. Literally controlled everything I did, but looking back they really weren't and didn't. Now I have the best relationship with my parents because they pushed me to be a good, smart person. Yea I've been through hell, but that was entirely of my making. Not how they raised me or put me through. People really need to start thinking about that.

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Mostly because they are an awesome theory, but kind of ineffective. Plus all those who get them become carriers, putting everyone at risk. Plus sometimes people get really sick from them.

How are they ineffective if there is barely any old world sickness in modern times? That's the point though. You're body has to learn to fight the sickness. It becomes stronger because of it. Like breaking a bone, when it heals the bone is stronger.

@Moxie group

Like I said. Children. Your parents control/ regulate everything else in your life, why would the internet be any different?

They don't really control much, at least in my household. They let my brother and me do what we please most of the time, as long as we have common sense. We work as a family unit, only divided by the people who can drive and who cannot (my dad and I are the only ones who can really drive at this point). Ever since we hit 14-15 years of age, they began to treat us like adults so we know how to manage and monitor ourselves. What good is parental monitoring if the children don't learn responsibility of themselves? What good is an 18-year-old who is sneaky, doesn't trust their parents/authority figures, or even worse, doesn't even know how to function like an adult?

And that is good parenting. Teaching your children how to be adults. But they still watch over you. Guide you. Even if you dont think that they are monitoring what you do in life I promise that they are.
How often to teens/youth use the media to actually learn things about being a functioning adult? Honestly. I'm sure that percentage is very low. Regulation and monitoring is not bad. Not at all.

What about strict and controlling parents? Parents that don't communicate with their children? Parents that have a very bad relationship with their children? Parents that punish their children out of spite and control them not to keep them safe or prepare them for adult life, but just because they like having control?

You guys do know that is a very and I mean very low percentage of parents now a days right? Having strict parents isn't a bad thing, they literally are preparing you for life. Because life doesn't give you shit. Life controls everything you want and do. Having parents that let you do whatever the hell you want and don't guide you are doing the worst kind of disservice ever.
Communication is an interesting thing to bring up. I think you should clarify about what the parent needs to communicate to their child about. Because in a logical opinion, parents don't need to tell their kids anything. Unless you want to sit down and talk about bills, jobs you don't understand, their sex lives, familial drama, taxes, politics that have nothing to do with children, etc. Then yea sure. But in truth, they are the adult and they don't need to be told what to do by children.
Everyone blames the parents for bad situations/relationships with children, but honestly it goes both ways. If you're an ass to your parents their going to be an ass back. It's that simple. Humans in general are like that. In all relationships in life, you have to work at it. Nothing is easy.
Parents are not the bad guys that teenagers make them out to be.
I thought had the strictest parents you could think of. Literally controlled everything I did, but looking back they really weren't and didn't. Now I have the best relationship with my parents because they pushed me to be a good, smart person. Yea I've been through hell, but that was entirely of my making. Not how they raised me or put me through. People really need to start thinking about that.

mkay sorry I've been stalking this chat and I'm just gonna jump in here real quick

I think that kids need a safe space to mess up. They need to be given some freedom to mess up while they still have a strong support system to help them out when they mess up and they don't know what to do. That's hard to learn when every aspect of your life is controlled. In my opinion, you need a little bit of freedom in order for that to work.
I am aware that my parents are probably not as bad as I make them out to be (in some things). I am aware that I overreact sometimes. But that's because my brain is still developing. It's rewiring itself and my rational decision-making skills are that of a child's right now. They are the ones who are supposed to be the adult, the bigger person, the more rational one.
Some people are put through hell that is not of their own making. Some people have parents who abuse them physically and emotionally. And because of the polarized political climate for those of you in America, kids who have differing political opinions from their parents or have an identity that their parents disagree with because of their politics, are ridiculed or abused.
Okay and this is a legitimate question because I've asked my parents the same thing and they've refused to answer me, how is restricting my freedom supposed to prepare me for having total freedom when I go to college? How is restricting the way I use my devices going to stick with me when I'm on my own and suddenly have free rein over my devices? How is it supposed to prepare me? (That kinda goes with the "safe space to mess up" thing I mentioned earlier)

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Mostly because they are an awesome theory, but kind of ineffective. Plus all those who get them become carriers, putting everyone at risk. Plus sometimes people get really sick from them.

How are they ineffective if there is barely any old world sickness in modern times? That's the point though. You're body has to learn to fight the sickness. It becomes stronger because of it. Like breaking a bone, when it heals the bone is stronger.

Like I said, the theory is awesome. There was a measles epidemic in Washington.
Question. Is a new flu vaccine invented every year.