I think it's funny when the same people who talk up all the protection we get from cops in the "what will you do if someone breaks into your house" scenario will turn around to the gun control argument and say "if you don't have a gun what're you gunna do when someone breaks into your house and threatens to kill you". Like pick one. Oh you don't wanna defend the police? Oh you think that'll mean there'll be no one there to protect you? Good thing you have your trusty gun. Stop complaining.
Owen your new pfp threw me off but it's hella cute!
Guys I can't stop laughing
I was supposed to bring my lunch today
I forgot
Welp, guess who's eating a lot for dinner lmao
I think it's funny when the same people who talk up all the protection we get from cops in the "what will you do if someone breaks into your house" scenario will turn around to the gun control argument and say "if you don't have a gun what're you gunna do when someone breaks into your house and threatens to kill you". Like pick one. Oh you don't wanna defend the police? Oh you think that'll mean there'll be no one there to protect you? Good thing you have your trusty gun. Stop complaining.
I think it's valid. Good police are necessary. But a lot of people realize the police can't (or sometimes won't) come until it's too late. There4 (okay that's funny), both arguments can stand.
hey dom, what are your thoughts on the idea of taking away the responsibilities of the police force that include things like abuse cases, drug abuse, csa, etc?
to go in depth here: the police have way too much on their plate. and a lot of it is stuff they don't train you for. the police academy doesn't train you to be a cps agent, or a marriage counsellor, or a therapist. the police are trained to deal with violence(we're talking on a broad spectrum here, not talking about the officers who incite violence and murder) and high stakes situations that need someone with a gun to go in. half of them aren't trained in resolving and lowering tensions, something that's needed in certain areas
the police do have their uses, i'm not going to lie and say they don't. but they're also being pushed to deal with so many things they shouldn't even be called for. something like a serial killer deserves the attention of a police force, not a kid caught selling weed at school. a case like that needs the attention of someone who specifically works with children, who will look to the root of the issue instead of arresting them–which is usually all the police can do.
a lot of people are suggesting that we take the insane police budget and transfer it to other services that should work hand in hand with the police, or have their own sort of branches.
I'd like to be rude to my blue lives matter mother, so please explain y'all's stuff because all I ever hear is "cops are there to p r o t e c t you what are you gonna do when they're gone" even though they're clearly having a problem doing their jobs :)
It's really awkward tho like she doesn't have a problem with any minorities? The occasional joke that makes everyone uncomfy but at this point I just Pretend I Do Not See, she's never like…ehh idk. Her thing is that she sees cops as "risking their lives for us" and won't hear a word against police or the military
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Whether or not police lives actually do matter, saying "blue lives matter" is supporting an inherently flawed and corrupt system and regardless of intent behind it, it's (is appropriating the right word here?) taking a very important racial issue, twisting it, and slapping it in the face of the oppressed, ignoring, invalidating, and poking fun at the blatant racism in our society sorry but I'mma make a snap judgement on your mom and say I don't really like her
I'd like to be rude to my blue lives matter mother, so please explain y'all's stuff because all I ever hear is "cops are there to p r o t e c t you what are you gonna do when they're gone" even though they're clearly having a problem doing their jobs :)
It's really awkward tho like she doesn't have a problem with any minorities? The occasional joke that makes everyone uncomfy but at this point I just Pretend I Do Not See, she's never like…ehh idk. Her thing is that she sees cops as "risking their lives for us" and won't hear a word against police or the military
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Whether or not police lives actually do matter, saying "blue lives matter" is supporting an inherently flawed and corrupt system and regardless of intent behind it, it's (is appropriating the right word here?) taking a very important racial issue, twisting it, and slapping it in the face of the oppressed, ignoring, invalidating, and poking fun at the blatant racism in our society sorry but I'mma make a snap judgement on your mom and say I don't really like her
not to mention your career isn't a race lmao. what country are cops from again? what continent??
hey dom, what are your thoughts on the idea of taking away the responsibilities of the police force that include things like abuse cases, drug abuse, csa, etc?
to go in depth here: the police have way too much on their plate. and a lot of it is stuff they don't train you for. the police academy doesn't train you to be a cps agent, or a marriage counsellor, or a therapist. the police are trained to deal with violence(we're talking on a broad spectrum here, not talking about the officers who incite violence and murder) and high stakes situations that need someone with a gun to go in. half of them aren't trained in resolving and lowering tensions, something that's needed in certain areas
the police do have their uses, i'm not going to lie and say they don't. but they're also being pushed to deal with so many things they shouldn't even be called for. something like a serial killer deserves the attention of a police force, not a kid caught selling weed at school. a case like that needs the attention of someone who specifically works with children, who will look to the root of the issue instead of arresting them–which is usually all the police can do.
a lot of people are suggesting that we take the insane police budget and transfer it to other services that should work hand in hand with the police, or have their own sort of branches.
^^^^^ And sometimes they're made to feel like they can't ask for help so instead of bringing in the fbi or other police for help with small town murder investigations they just make shit up without regard to the consequences of their stupidity and it makes me very angry
I'd like to be rude to my blue lives matter mother, so please explain y'all's stuff because all I ever hear is "cops are there to p r o t e c t you what are you gonna do when they're gone" even though they're clearly having a problem doing their jobs :)
It's really awkward tho like she doesn't have a problem with any minorities? The occasional joke that makes everyone uncomfy but at this point I just Pretend I Do Not See, she's never like…ehh idk. Her thing is that she sees cops as "risking their lives for us" and won't hear a word against police or the military
Sigh
Whether or not police lives actually do matter, saying "blue lives matter" is supporting an inherently flawed and corrupt system and regardless of intent behind it, it's (is appropriating the right word here?) taking a very important racial issue, twisting it, and slapping it in the face of the oppressed, ignoring, invalidating, and poking fun at the blatant racism in our society sorry but I'mma make a snap judgement on your mom and say I don't really like her
not to mention your career isn't a race lmao. what country are cops from again? what continent??
Haven't you heard? They're all from a large island near Hawaii, it's called Coplandia. The ignorance of today's youth. Smh
hey dom, what are your thoughts on the idea of taking away the responsibilities of the police force that include things like abuse cases, drug abuse, csa, etc?
to go in depth here: the police have way too much on their plate. and a lot of it is stuff they don't train you for. the police academy doesn't train you to be a cps agent, or a marriage counsellor, or a therapist. the police are trained to deal with violence(we're talking on a broad spectrum here, not talking about the officers who incite violence and murder) and high stakes situations that need someone with a gun to go in. half of them aren't trained in resolving and lowering tensions, something that's needed in certain areas
the police do have their uses, i'm not going to lie and say they don't. but they're also being pushed to deal with so many things they shouldn't even be called for. something like a serial killer deserves the attention of a police force, not a kid caught selling weed at school. a case like that needs the attention of someone who specifically works with children, who will look to the root of the issue instead of arresting them–which is usually all the police can do.
a lot of people are suggesting that we take the insane police budget and transfer it to other services that should work hand in hand with the police, or have their own sort of branches.
I don't know enough to give a very good answer. But I would say either that or train officers in deescalation. Not sure I spelled that right. But perhaps that is too much. All I can say is I want police to have to be voter approved. Might solve a good many issues.
All I can say is I want police to have to be voter approved. Might solve a good many issues.
So more like sheriffs? I think sheriffs are voter-approved.
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Whether or not police lives actually do matter, saying "blue lives matter" is supporting an inherently flawed and corrupt system
Idk about that.
the system is inherently flawed and corrupt lmao. the police have been corrupt for however long they've been in existence. it goes from the mob corruption in the force in the 50s-80s, to the fact that anyone who has enough money, or enough social standing, can get away with anything.
brooklyn 99 did a really good episode on it, in which a man who was high up in the force not so discreetly threatened peralta, who had arrested his son on vandalism charges.
it's in the way things come to light about officers being payed off by politicians, it's that every time a celebrity gets arrested it gets so glossed over. the system itself is a huge mess and needs reform.
hey dom, what are your thoughts on the idea of taking away the responsibilities of the police force that include things like abuse cases, drug abuse, csa, etc?
to go in depth here: the police have way too much on their plate. and a lot of it is stuff they don't train you for. the police academy doesn't train you to be a cps agent, or a marriage counsellor, or a therapist. the police are trained to deal with violence(we're talking on a broad spectrum here, not talking about the officers who incite violence and murder) and high stakes situations that need someone with a gun to go in. half of them aren't trained in resolving and lowering tensions, something that's needed in certain areas
the police do have their uses, i'm not going to lie and say they don't. but they're also being pushed to deal with so many things they shouldn't even be called for. something like a serial killer deserves the attention of a police force, not a kid caught selling weed at school. a case like that needs the attention of someone who specifically works with children, who will look to the root of the issue instead of arresting them–which is usually all the police can do.
a lot of people are suggesting that we take the insane police budget and transfer it to other services that should work hand in hand with the police, or have their own sort of branches.
I don't know enough to give a very good answer. But I would say either that or train officers in deescalation. Not sure I spelled that right. But perhaps that is too much. All I can say is I want police to have to be voter approved. Might solve a good many issues.
what a sexy answer. also i think you did but there might be a lil dash there?
but yes! they absolutely should be! train police in de-escalation and make it so they're not so over worked by cases they aren't trained to take and that they shouldn't have any say in. do both. why not. literally there's nothing wrong with doing both and then everyone wins
It's so weird to me that police are expected to handle so many different types of cases. Like, you wouldn't expect a scientist to excel in chemistry, biology, physics, medicine, ecology, and more, so why try to have the police handle everything from teens selling drugs to brutal serial killing? Why not have different groups set up and spread the funding more, introduce more de-escalation training, etc. if not just rebuild the system from the ground up.
There's so many things that they should be trained in and honestly if they were it would probably reduce the people who become police to people who actually want to help people
I like what Jyn's saying!
There's so many things that they should be trained in and honestly if they were it would probably reduce the people who become police to people who actually want to help people
^This
Also there's probably something to be said about how cops in media are shown. Don't watch a lot of cop movies/tv shows, but I recently watched a video by Jack Saint about violence as comedy in cop media that was pretty interesting.
There's so many things that they should be trained in and honestly if they were it would probably reduce the people who become police to people who actually want to help people
^This
Also there's probably something to be said about how cops in media are shown. Don't watch a lot of cop movies/tv shows, but I recently watched a video by Jack Saint about violence as comedy in cop media that was pretty interesting.
okay so i'm the biggest fan of procedural shows, things like law and order, ncis, criminal minds, etc
and let me tell you. even not as comedy, you can taste the violence. i'll watch them, and i'll watch one of the cops/detectives/specialists kick in a door without knocking or a warrant, and i cringe. i have to get up and leave sometimes, during the scenes where they apprehend criminals, because of the force they use. yes, they are catching bad people. but even when the people aren't bad, i've watched the likeable main characters bash someone's head into the hood of a car, or into a wall, for struggling a bit. they'll hit like this isn't an arrest, but a streetfight.
which is about the point i go into a longwinded rant to my very tired of hearing it parents about how the casual police brutality in media and tv is why so many people defend violence perpetuated by cops, is why so many people expect it and see it coming and are surprised to be taken in gently. it's why so many cops go into being cops knowing that they can get away with violence, and do just that.
It's super toxic, yeah. And it has a sort of CSI Effect where it bleeds into reality.
It's so weird to me that police are expected to handle so many different types of cases. Like, you wouldn't expect a scientist to excel in chemistry, biology, physics, medicine, ecology, and more, so why try to have the police handle everything from teens selling drugs to brutal serial killing? Why not have different groups set up and spread the funding more, introduce more de-escalation training, etc. if not just rebuild the system from the ground up.
I mean the cops dealing with teens selling drugs out in the street are not the same cops dealing with homocides. There are different teams for those sorts of things.
It's so weird to me that police are expected to handle so many different types of cases. Like, you wouldn't expect a scientist to excel in chemistry, biology, physics, medicine, ecology, and more, so why try to have the police handle everything from teens selling drugs to brutal serial killing? Why not have different groups set up and spread the funding more, introduce more de-escalation training, etc. if not just rebuild the system from the ground up.
I mean the cops dealing with teens selling drugs out in the street are not the same cops dealing with homocides. There are different teams for those sorts of things.
Ah, alright. I am admittedly not too well-versed in cop lore.
