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Started March 14, 2019 by Deleted user

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A colorblind casting doesn't work in a non-colorblind world, sorry. Plus, Hamilton is primarily rap and hip hop, which is highly influenced by POC…

Okay…? If a white person can rap/sing/act just as well as someone of color, does it matter? And same vice-verse applies, too. I’m not saying he shouldn’t have casted POC’s, I’m saying he should’ve casted without any prejudice against any race.

So, let me get this straight: a man who has been denied roles because of his race decides to write a play heavily influenced by POC culture and to cast his friends and others who have been denied roles for the same reason, and you're saying that's somehow racist?

(On an unrelated note, this chat just passed 3000 posts!)

(Cool!)

Nah. And it wouldn’t be an issue if he called them to the show by name. But he called them by race and not name so that does make it racist.

So then handicap parking spaces are ableist?

I'm curious… do we know for 100% that Lin said he didn't want white people auditioning for the main cast?

OR

Was it that the main parts were written for POC and white people were still able to audition for the parts with a chance to get it if they proved to be extraordinary, but he chose people that would not normally would have been chosen?

Because that doesn't sound racist to me.

Also, despite the fact that the main cast is entirely POC it is still wildly diverse. It's not all one race of people. So to say that it was racist is kind of ridiculous.

So is it sexist to say that only girls can audition for female roles?

Because that's what your argument sounds like, Dom.

I'm curious… do we know for 100% that Lin said he didn't want white people auditioning for the main cast?

OR

Was it that the main parts were written for POC and white people were still able to audition for the parts with a chance to get it if they proved to be extraordinary, but he chose people that would not normally would have been chosen?

Because that doesn't sound racist to me.

Also, despite the fact that the main cast is entirely POC it is still wildly diverse. It's not all one race of people. So to say that it was racist is kind of ridiculous.

Main parts were written for POC, white people can still be in non-main roles like King George, ensemble, and understudies/swings. Which really isn't racist at all, since white people are the leads in a ton of other shows.

“HAMILTON is holding OPEN AUDITIONS for SINGERS who RAP!
Seeking NON-WHITE men and women, ages 20s to 30s, for Broadway and upcoming Tours!
** No prior theater experience necessary. **”

So then handicap parking spaces are ableist?

At least discriminatory. Not that that is an inherently bad thing.

I'm so insanely happy that I now have 3 legit roles to use as "theatre experience" because shows in my town are very competitive and no one's gonna cast Peasant #3 as a lead…

I put out the ad so hopefully that answers your questions.

Also, despite the fact that the main cast is entirely POC it is still wildly diverse. It's not all one race of people. So to say that it was racist is kind of ridiculous.

Hmm, it’s based on ‘everything but that race’ so I think it still works.

I may have to throw in the towel here, folks. I don't think I can debate with someone who thinks handicap parking is somehow discriminatory. I think we'll just keep going in circles.

I'm so insanely happy that I now have 3 legit roles to use as "theatre experience" because shows in my town are very competitive and no one's gonna cast Peasant #3 as a lead…

Happy for you mate.

I may have to throw in the towel here, folks. I don't think I can debate with someone who thinks handicap parking is somehow discriminatory. I think we'll just keep going in circles.

Remember that I use the term literally. I thought I no longer needed to explain that.

I'm so insanely happy that I now have 3 legit roles to use as "theatre experience" because shows in my town are very competitive and no one's gonna cast Peasant #3 as a lead…

Happy for you mate.

I had to put down 'sock puppet Laertes' at one point to bolster my resume.
I don't know how I feel about that.

“HAMILTON is holding OPEN AUDITIONS for SINGERS who RAP!
Seeking NON-WHITE men and women, ages 20s to 30s, for Broadway and upcoming Tours!
** No prior theater experience necessary. **”

(the issue with this ad is semantics, because casting calls often ask for race. Loads and loads of casting calls are for certain races. The problem isn't the idea but the use of "non" as opposed to "people of color")

So is it sexist to say that only girls can audition for female roles?

Well it does prohibit men, so technically, yes. But that in itself isn’t the issue. These guys are Washington and the bunch, the whitest of the whites. Prohibiting white people from playing them is a bit odd (and I still hold, racist.) Not that I have any objections to the cast, but this seems like what people call (and what a stupid phrase) ‘reverse racism.’

I'm so insanely happy that I now have 3 legit roles to use as "theatre experience" because shows in my town are very competitive and no one's gonna cast Peasant #3 as a lead…

Happy for you mate.

I had to put down 'sock puppet Laertes' at one point to bolster my resume.
I don't know how I feel about that.

L O L.

(Also, that ad is totally discriminatory against people not in their 20s/30s, wow)

You are right Lol. But we have twenty years until Twitter explodes in rage about that.