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@ElderGod-Icefire

The adhd realization of anger that everyone else is functioning much easier than you , and you too can achieve that level if you could just get your hand on a pill that's barely out of reach. I feel.

jnfbjd it's been. bad. lately. I can't focus on anything. my room is an unholy wreck, I can't focus on my schoolwork, or anything. literally anyhting. fishbkgsjdbxg

I'm sorry mate. It sounds like things are really overwhelming.

thanks. it kind of is, and I'm taking the fucking ACT tomorrow

@berlioz

The whole overall administration is pretty trumpy/conservative. They'd probably support the sub.
The teachers who do use preferred name/pronouns keep it hush hush between them and their students. They might be disciplined, idk tho. There are no policies in place to protect trans students.

@berlioz

Ok I just looked it up, and there are technically policies protecting trans students.
However it's only about anti-harassment, and if the student wants access to a neutral bathroom/locker room, the parents have to be involved in the decision. Nothing on names/pronouns from what I see.

@ElderGod-Icefire

Ok I just looked it up, and there are technically policies protecting trans students.
However it's only about anti-harassment, and if the student wants access to a neutral bathroom/locker room, the parents have to be involved in the decision. Nothing on names/pronouns from what I see.

oh
Wait the parents have to be involved?? what about closeted kids who can't be out at home??

@berlioz

Ok I just looked it up, and there are technically policies protecting trans students.
However it's only about anti-harassment, and if the student wants access to a neutral bathroom/locker room, the parents have to be involved in the decision. Nothing on names/pronouns from what I see.

oh
Wait the parents have to be involved?? what about closeted kids who can't be out at home??

Exactly
I'm that kid but I've never asked for gender space related accommodations. I took gym online and just try to use the restroom during class when no one is in there.

@ElderGod-Icefire

also this whole conversation reminds me of a girl I know who is very transphobic, and it's bc one of her friends at public school heard another girl get raped in the girls' bathroom by a guy. so clearly trans women are at fault bc otherwise the guy could never have gotten in (insert a massive eyeroll here) and now the school doesn't allow trans kids to use their preferred bathroom, and has fucking guards/teachers/something at the doors to the bathrooms to enforce the rule

like. i feel so bad about this girl who got raped. but at the same time. it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

@ElderGod-Icefire

Ok I just looked it up, and there are technically policies protecting trans students.
However it's only about anti-harassment, and if the student wants access to a neutral bathroom/locker room, the parents have to be involved in the decision. Nothing on names/pronouns from what I see.

oh
Wait the parents have to be involved?? what about closeted kids who can't be out at home??

Exactly
I'm that kid but I've never asked for gender space related accommodations. I took gym online and just try to use the restroom during class when no one is in there.

that really sucks :/

@berlioz

it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

Exactly. It's shirking the responsibility of men to do something about rape culture by blaming it on an already marginalized community.
It sucks that public restroom aren't safe tho. I hope that girl is doing well now.

@ElderGod-Icefire

it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

Exactly. It's shirking the responsibility of men to do something about rape culture by blaming it on an already marginalized community.
It sucks that public restroom aren't safe tho. I hope that girl is doing well now.

yes!
yeah. idk if she is, I don't know her personally, but i really hope she's ok

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

Exactly. It's shirking the responsibility of men to do something about rape culture by blaming it on an already marginalized community.
It sucks that public restroom aren't safe tho. I hope that girl is doing well now.

Well the argument goes that normalization of different sexes in opposite bathrooms will make it easier for rapists which seems reasonable. Not that trans folks will be at fault for that -though that is what some believe- but yeah. Obviously sex segregation has never stopped rapists but it does make sense that people will take advantage of it

@ElderGod-Icefire

it is not the fault of trans women that a cis dude went into the women's bathroom.

Exactly. It's shirking the responsibility of men to do something about rape culture by blaming it on an already marginalized community.
It sucks that public restroom aren't safe tho. I hope that girl is doing well now.

Well the argument goes that normalization of different sexes in opposite bathrooms will make it easier for rapists which seems reasonable. Not that trans folks will be at fault for that -though that is what some believe- but yeah. Obviously sex segregation has never stopped rapists but it does make sense that people will take advantage of it

sir. cis men can and do go into women's bathrooms anyway. women get raped all the time by men. men get raped by men. whether or not trans people can go into the bathrooms they prefer has pretty much zero impact on rape, bc it happens anyways, and I hate that that is a true sentence

fuck the patriarchy

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Oh okay thanks

I think this is a complex issue like everything else that a lot of people miss the nuance of, instead turning to simple political talking points and generalities. I’m honestly not even sure where I stand on this issue

@Katastrophic group

why do bathrooms need to be gendered? just have a nice hall of unisex/fam bathrooms with properly closing and locking doors. Stalls are bs anyways, too many stories of wide cracks and kids crawling under the doors and stuff. Plus, avoids awkward situations that involve noise like opening products, crying children, and other bodily functions that can be embarrassingly loud.

@Pickles group

why do bathrooms need to be gendered? just have a nice hall of unisex/fam bathrooms with properly closing and locking doors. Stalls are bs anyways, too many stories of wide cracks and kids crawling under the doors and stuff. Plus, avoids awkward situations that involve noise like opening products, crying children, and other bodily functions that can be embarrassingly loud.

^^^^^^^

@Katastrophic group

if only we had money to build nicer areas like in schools…

On that topic I want to be rude to my city's education department for trying to pass useless bills like trying to put multiple cameras in each schoolroom instead of lowering the teacher-student ratio or employing councilors and sped teachers , fixing the teacher shortage (instead they let go a bunch of teachers for their political leanings), or rebuilding the corrupt administration that is trying to remove teacher's lunch and planning periods so they can sub for no pay.