Well, I don't see it as a choice or something that's taught, but I don't really see it as a good thing either. I guess technically that falls under the third option
It's a bit hard to explain but I view it about the same way as I do most attraction-related sins, it's just a kind of temptation.
Attraction is not a sin.
…Well yeah, attraction by itself isn't necessarily a sin, but I'm pretty sure we can all agree if said attraction was from a married man towards, for example, a 5-year-old boy, then it might be considered wrong-
Please don't bring pedophilia into a conversation about LGBTQ+. There have been way too many pedophiles trying to group their way into the community and so that comparison makes me really uncomfortable.
I understand, sorry.
I feel similarly to Ella, but I do agree that it's taught. In my opinion, (And feel free to correct me) it's something young people observe, and decide they want to do. It's something that would have to be taught/observed, something like growing up around it. The same way I've grown up surrounded with only straight relationship examples, someone else could grow up with only LGBT examples and have opinions just as strong as I do, only in a different way. Does any of that make sense?
Somewhat, yeah. As an LGBTQ+ person I believe that any sexuality runs off of brain instinct, but you have to be taught labels.
That's valid, but then how would you explain LGBTQ kids in intensely religious families that disband contact with so-called sinners?
Hm… could you elaborate on what you mean a bit further?
I can agree that it is somewhat natural, but
And I realize probably none of you will agree with this
But in my religion, we consider it a sin. And just like people always have a mental desire to steal, and to sin, this fits in with that. It's a natural mental action, because sin comes naturally to human nature now. So I can agree that it would be brain instinct, but I have my own reasons for why it could be instinctual. While still believing it's wrong
I was a serious Christian for a while, actually being a teacher for a few years. To this day, I still don't fully understand why it's considered wrong.
That's valid, but then how would you explain LGBTQ kids in intensely religious families that disband contact with so-called sinners?
I'd like this answered.
I'd also like someone to explain to me how it is taught to be LGBTQ+, when some of the community comes from countries where they would be killed for such an offence? When a young man that comes from generations of purely hetero relationships and 'good christian values', can be gay?
Yeah, it's not 'taught' in the sense where you have to learn to be gay. It's attraction and love, and no different than hetero love with the exception of the genders of the people involved.
The Gay Agenda does not include 'turning' people gay.
You can't be turned gay anymore than you can be turned straight.
I'd also like someone to explain to me how it is taught to be LGBTQ+, when some of the community comes from countries where they would be killed for such an offence? When a young man that comes from generations of purely hetero relationships and 'good christian values', can be gay?
This ties into anyone implying it's a choice. Some of us have experienced first- or second- hand the situation of realizing you're LGBTQ in a community where it's 'disgusting' and 'sinful'. Explain to me why a child, knowing he'd be judged, disowned, or even killed as Eris said, would choose to be queer.
Like I said, I believe it's a part of human nature to want what I would consider bad. To break away from the social norm is always a temptation, and it's a form of rebellion of some kind.
Uh there's a third possible option. It's just how someone is, not learned or taught.
Sorry for not specifying. I considered that one not necessary to mention as it was already on the table.
So let's go at it from the other angle. Is there any evidence besides personal feelings to say it is biological?
Uh there's a third possible option. It's just how someone is, not learned or taught.
Sorry for not specifying. I considered that one not necessary to mention as it was already on the table.
Oh I see
So let's go at it from the other angle. Is there any evidence besides personal feelings to say it is biological?
Do you mean lgbtq+ attraction or attraction in general?
Like I said, I believe it's a part of human nature to want what I would consider bad. To break away from the social norm is always a temptation, and it's a form of rebellion of some kind.
There's a difference between rebellion and essentially wishing pain on yourself. I don't think you're understanding the situation some queer children find themselves in and the mental and in the hardest cases even physical torture it brings.
If it was a choice, it would not be a petty act of 'wanting to break away'. It would be a death wish. Such a wish isn't human nature.
Point.
So let's go at it from the other angle. Is there any evidence besides personal feelings to say it is biological?
Do you mean lgbtq+ attraction or attraction in general?
Lgbt attraction.