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Started March 14, 2019 by Deleted user

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Torture anyone?

As in should we debate torture?

Obviously. Either that or I am in the mood for torturing someone.

Lmao yeah sorry
So like what about it are we debating?

Obviously. Either that or I am in the mood for torturing someone.

wheezes XD

Waterboarding and Other Forms of Torture
To help gain information from terrorists, the U.S. government uses various forms of torture, including waterboarding. Are these methods of gaining information humane? Is waterboarding a form of cruel and unusual punishment? Are there other reliable methods that pose less risk? Do terrorists and other prisoners maintain basic rights, or are there a specific set of rights for this population?

Also let's pull in The Death Penalty into this argument since they kind of correlate.

Is the death penalty a form of cruel and unusual punishment? Are certain groups of people sentenced to the death penalty more than others? These questions are two of the biggest components of the capital punishment debate. Arguments related to this topic include what message the death penalty sends to society, which execution methods are most acceptable, and laws regarding the criteria for receiving the death penalty.

I actually did a paper on the death penalty earlier this year.
My stance is basically, in some cases it could prevent a lot of harm to society, but because of the systematic racism (in America at least) the death penalty is unfairly used, and therefore should be outlawed.
I don't know what I think about torture.

I think torture is inhumane, and new ways should be developed that don't truly endanger anyone. Or simply stop using it no matter how fun it is.

Imma steal Dom's argument (I'm also going to say that my stance on torture is kinda 'grey'.)

But what if lives are on the line? A terrorist organization is threatening the safety of millions of people, how else would you obtain the information needed?

no matter how fun it is.

Please don't say stuff like this. Torture is not fun for anyone and this is a serious discussion.
We are writers, not actually serial killers.

no matter how fun it is.

Please don't say stuff like this. Torture is not fun for anyone and this is a serious discussion.
We are writers, not actually serial killers.

^^

Exactly.

Imma steal Dom's argument (I'm also going to say that my stance on torture is kinda 'grey'.)

But what if lives are on the line? A terrorist organization is threatening the safety of millions of people, how else would you obtain the information needed?

But are the results guaranteed to be truthful?

To me, it depends on the kind of torture. If the torture is inflicting physical pain until they break, I say do it but only if there is no other way– the argument being they themselves are facing the consequences for their actions.
But mental torture (I'm pretty sure it's a thing, I might be wrong and way too influenced by TV) is too far for anyone. The use of one's greatest fears or greatest loves to torture them is cruel no matter what the situation.

The use of one's greatest fears or greatest loves to torture them is cruel no matter what the situation.

I have to agree on this one. Or the use/threaten to use a loved one of the accused to get them to talk is uncalled for. Especially since they generally use a child or wife to do such a thing.

But also people can lie under torture. Granted I've never been tortured, but I have on many occasions told someone the truth they want to hear in order to distract them. In the case of a bomber it would be easy because it would be probably that the bomb would have gone off by the time the lie was discovered.

Torture is incredibly interesting but maybe not the best topic for debate. I think we can all agree that torture is morally wrong. Let me bring up something more mundane but more interesting: Is a coconut a mammal?

No.

…no?

It has hair and produces milk

I've got a debate actually. Eris, on another thread you said something that I disagreed with, it might make an interesting topic.

Honesty, communication and trust are the keys to a healthy relationship. If one of those is missing or completely bonkers then you have an abusive relationship.

It has hair and produces milk

It doesn't reproduce, and I'm pretty sure that's the main definition of a mammal

Potentially yes, but that brings another question. A cat can fill the container it's in while maintaining its volume so does that mean cats are classified as liquids?

Potentially yes, but that brings another question. A cat can fill the container it's in while maintaining its volume so does that mean cats are classified as liquids?

No, liquids are classified as having weakly linked molecules. A cat has strongly linked molecules and is therefore solid

Torture is incredibly interesting but maybe not the best topic for debate. I think we can all agree that torture is morally wrong. Let me bring up something more mundane but more interesting: Is a coconut a mammal?

To replace an interesting topic with something that ridiculously stupid is kind of not okay with me. I was planning on tying it into a discussion about the death penalty which is something we all will have to vote on in the future. Which is incredibly important and can impact the entire country.

If you do not want to debate something then do not comment. It's that simple.

and no a coconut is not a fucking mammal, it doesn't reproduce through live birth.