Look at Kombucha Boy making a fool of himself online….
I can't wait for Chris Hansen and the FBI to toss his whiny ass in prison!

0:47 to 1:11 is just…
D-Does he think he's, like, a cartoon character?

No, he thinks he's the Joker. Except he's just a joke.

Ohh okay. The electoral college doesn't really help less densely populated states though. That is a very common complaint from states with small populations.
I don't really, but I think they can be if they wanted to be. Yes, the public school system is complete garbage and I talk about that often, but everyone knows how to read and write. Everyone can do basic math. I meant that everyone has a basic education, and they have the option to be educated more if they chose. And I don't just mean through college, but through the internet too. I know news sources are biased, but its still more than they had when this system was put in place. I would not trust a good political education, but that's not what I meant. Sorry, I wasnt very clear on that.

As I have something to fall back on and no way to further argue the small state point I'ma let that one away.
True, but the likelihood is small enough to warrant ignoring it probably. Oh I see what you're saying. But I think it takes more than the ability of those things to be politically competent. (But like I said earlier, it's possible but probably not happening. But I have low expectations for humanity.) Really it hinges on whether or not people are willing to search out opinions they don't like. Most people are content thinking that what they were taught is Right and will ignore most other things or just use arguments that attack what is not the real position. Most people have a hard time thinking they can be wrong. It's really interesting actually and I can (somewhat) explain the psychological process. Maybe later.
But back to the arguments. With democracy, the majority can easily oppress the minority. I think the American people understand that a little bit, but since the minority so often thinks they are Right, they do not feel much regret in forcing the Right opinions/laws/etc on the minority because they are Wrong. (I realize I am kind of going back to that first argument, so I will add that maybe it helps smaller states by blocking larger ones to a certain extent.)
The other important part is this: If we are running without the College, then that means (democracy) that the candidate can simply (attempt to) find a way to campaign to the majority states, or simply one area. The huge problem with this is that different places have different needs and interests. (I feel like Hello Future Me mentions this in an On Worldbuilding video on empires.) That means that if this fictional candidate's plan works, a president can be elected that serves some states or a particular area well perhaps, but is in a position to neglect to the rest of the country. (Which is more than possible since s/he only needs to keep their base of voters happy to get reelected.)
The Electoral College system means that for a presidential candidate to win, s/he has to campaign in a way that is likely to gain approval for all (or most of) the states that are to be governed by them. in other words. The electoral college system makes it more likely for the elected president to be one that will care for the entire county, instead of neglecting most of it in favor of the densely populated states.

@Queen_Cuisine here is my defense of the Electoral College.

If I were going to attempt to run for president, guess what my platform would be? It would be one that specifically benefitted California, Texas, Florida, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, New Jersey, and Virginia. Why them? Well it's because they have the highest number electoral seats (as of 2010, they will slightly shift next year). That's 12 states… Out of 50. To win and be ahead by an additional 13 seats.

If you live in Washington (State), Arizona, Indiana, Massachusetts, Tennessee, Maryland, Minnesota, and all of the other 38 states. Your opinion doesn't matter to someone looking for the electoral votes because PLOT TWIST… You're state isn't worth as many points to the high score of your politician.

Obviously a smart president would also find a few other states for backup but nonetheless, they don't need that many of the states.

A potential president need to gain approval of:

"… all (or most of) the states that are to be governed by them…"

I think not.

I see your point (and sorry for not responding earlier) but isn’t twelve states more than what would be needed for a majority based on population?

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Ohh okay. The electoral college doesn't really help less densely populated states though. That is a very common complaint from states with small populations.
I don't really, but I think they can be if they wanted to be. Yes, the public school system is complete garbage and I talk about that often, but everyone knows how to read and write. Everyone can do basic math. I meant that everyone has a basic education, and they have the option to be educated more if they chose. And I don't just mean through college, but through the internet too. I know news sources are biased, but its still more than they had when this system was put in place. I would not trust a good political education, but that's not what I meant. Sorry, I wasnt very clear on that.

As I have something to fall back on and no way to further argue the small state point I'ma let that one away.
True, but the likelihood is small enough to warrant ignoring it probably. Oh I see what you're saying. But I think it takes more than the ability of those things to be politically competent. (But like I said earlier, it's possible but probably not happening. But I have low expectations for humanity.) Really it hinges on whether or not people are willing to search out opinions they don't like. Most people are content thinking that what they were taught is Right and will ignore most other things or just use arguments that attack what is not the real position. Most people have a hard time thinking they can be wrong. It's really interesting actually and I can (somewhat) explain the psychological process. Maybe later.
But back to the arguments. With democracy, the majority can easily oppress the minority. I think the American people understand that a little bit, but since the minority so often thinks they are Right, they do not feel much regret in forcing the Right opinions/laws/etc on the minority because they are Wrong. (I realize I am kind of going back to that first argument, so I will add that maybe it helps smaller states by blocking larger ones to a certain extent.)
The other important part is this: If we are running without the College, then that means (democracy) that the candidate can simply (attempt to) find a way to campaign to the majority states, or simply one area. The huge problem with this is that different places have different needs and interests. (I feel like Hello Future Me mentions this in an On Worldbuilding video on empires.) That means that if this fictional candidate's plan works, a president can be elected that serves some states or a particular area well perhaps, but is in a position to neglect to the rest of the country. (Which is more than possible since s/he only needs to keep their base of voters happy to get reelected.)
The Electoral College system means that for a presidential candidate to win, s/he has to campaign in a way that is likely to gain approval for all (or most of) the states that are to be governed by them. in other words. The electoral college system makes it more likely for the elected president to be one that will care for the entire county, instead of neglecting most of it in favor of the densely populated states.

@Queen_Cuisine here is my defense of the Electoral College.

If I were going to attempt to run for president, guess what my platform would be? It would be one that specifically benefitted California, Texas, Florida, New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, New Jersey, and Virginia. Why them? Well it's because they have the highest number electoral seats (as of 2010, they will slightly shift next year). That's 12 states… Out of 50. To win and be ahead by an additional 13 seats.

If you live in Washington (State), Arizona, Indiana, Massachusetts, Tennessee, Maryland, Minnesota, and all of the other 38 states. Your opinion doesn't matter to someone looking for the electoral votes because PLOT TWIST… You're state isn't worth as many points to the high score of your politician.

Obviously a smart president would also find a few other states for backup but nonetheless, they don't need that many of the states.

A potential president need to gain approval of:

"… all (or most of) the states that are to be governed by them…"

I think not.

I see your point (and sorry for not responding earlier) but isn’t twelve states more than what would be needed for a majority based on population?

I figured you would point that out, and this where I must say that in a way I do agree with you.

It may only take 12 states with the electoral college, but if you convinced the whole population of a state for a popular vote (which is unrealistic but bear with me), it would take only 9.

I agree that using a popular vote is not a good system, something many people would hate me for saying but whatever because if you are in the voting minority, YOU GET NOTHING, YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY! I am not saying that we should not have a system besides a popular vote, I am just saying that we should not have the electoral college, at least in it's current state, as it too does not allow for a fair system since it twists voted in a way that would not benefit the minority.

Well said. (Also nice Gene Wilder quotation.)
How would you improve the college if you had the power?
Or what other way of voting across the country would you propose?

Well said. (Also nice Gene Wilder quotation.)
How would you improve the college if you had the power?
Or what other way of voting across the country would you propose?

That is where I am afraid I haven't the foggiest. There's a reason I don't like being in leadership positions. It's because leadership isn't my thing.

I do not know what I would do to replace or improve the EC. That is where I leave you dear readers.

Also, Merry Christmas debate chat.

(Or if Christmas isn't your cup of tea, Happy Yuletide, Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa tomorrow.)

Happy Holidays Debate Chat and all creatures within, creeping innumerable, both small and great beasts.

Happy holidays my dudes!

The Holidays bring us debaters together in one mildly aggressive grouping.

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The Queen has spoken.

Debate Topic

Guided/Assigned Reading.

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Is it something that should continue? What does it teach students? Personal feelings?

What is this assigned reading? What classes normally have it?

Oh, Do I have an opinion on assigned reading. I will do my best to remain civil minded.
Assigned reading is like dissecting a kitten "Oh look at this lovely sweet amazing kitten, now let's rip it apart and look at it's guts!" I can understand that in English classes there is a need for something to do other then write essays, but if you're dissecting kittens for content maybe, maybe rethink the class in the first place. I know for a fact that student's don't learn anything from these readings, it becomes just one more assignment to get done in an already crowded schedule. My entire AP English class doesn't read the assigned reading because it's pointless. This particular class isn't the only one that doesn't do the reading. Kids who get 5 on the Ap test have admitted they never did the reading. So why attempt to make us do it. Suggested reading, that's something different that I am supportive of. I just think that Assigned reading is just busy work.

That sounds horrid. But I do see why it would be done.

^Yeah, that pretty much sounds like the same thing, so I'm going to go ahead and share some thoughts.

Basically, the tl;dr version of it is that novel studies= good. The books that we have to read for novel studies= not so good.

I'm not saying that all classic novel study books are bad, but I don't think a lot of them are really right for teaching to high school students just because high school students aren't the right audience for these books.
In grade 9 I had to read In the Heat of the Night which is about a black detective trying to solve a murder in the 60s somewhere in the southern US. So obviously there's a big focus on racism and discrimination in this book, but there's so many other YA books that tackle those same things that are aimed specifically at high school students. So why do we have a bunch of 15 year olds reading about a middle aged man when we could be reading about other 15 year olds and still have the exact same discussion about racism?

A lot of these books are still worth reading, and still worth talking about but I feel like a lot of them just aren't entirely relevant to high school students in this day and age.