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@Moxie group

Along with of course, leading men to view women as objects for their sexual pleasure instead of actually people.

Yeah exactly its dehumanizing for women

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Yeah I'm pretty sure it creates a culture of violence against women during sex being normalized. I feel like I've seen so many different posts on so many different social media platforms about women's shitty and abusive sexual experiences because a lot of men learned about sex through porn, which is really toxic.

Okay I can see that actually, but on the other hand– not all porn is like that. You could say that the men that go searching for that kind of porn alrady have some kind of issue on how they were raised.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Because I’m thinking of it in a legal sense. Morality wise, I say none should do it. But I also believe in free will so…

But you're taking this 'morality' from a religious standpoint, not what is natural to humanity at its core instincts.

Well it depends what you define as natural. Humans are animals, yes. But they are also more than that. And many many studies have shown that the best way for sexuality to be exercised (in terms of reproduction) is for two people to pair up for a long period of time.

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Porn is legal and it's just filmed prostitution.

And porn leads to all sorts of horrible things.

It….does?
(here I am thinking people just whack and go on with their lives.)

Remember when I relayed Ted Bundy talking about porn?

The dude was mentally ill. YOu can't think that all people are like that?!

@Moxie group

Yeah I'm pretty sure it creates a culture of violence against women during sex being normalized. I feel like I've seen so many different posts on so many different social media platforms about women's shitty and abusive sexual experiences because a lot of men learned about sex through porn, which is really toxic.

Okay I can see that actually, but on the other hand– not all porn is like that. You could say that the men that go searching for that kind of porn alrady have some kind of issue on how they were raised.

I disagree. What specific kind of issues do you mean?

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Yeah I'm pretty sure it creates a culture of violence against women during sex being normalized. I feel like I've seen so many different posts on so many different social media platforms about women's shitty and abusive sexual experiences because a lot of men learned about sex through porn, which is really toxic.

Okay I can see that actually, but on the other hand– not all porn is like that. You could say that the men that go searching for that kind of porn alrady have some kind of issue on how they were raised.

Men who go searching for bodies to jack off to already have plenty of issues. But male sexuality is a very strong urge that can easily lead to all sorts of things.

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Because I’m thinking of it in a legal sense. Morality wise, I say none should do it. But I also believe in free will so…

But you're taking this 'morality' from a religious standpoint, not what is natural to humanity at its core instincts.

Well it depends what you define as natural. Humans are animals, yes. But they are also more than that. And many many studies have shown that the best way for sexuality to be exercised (in terms of reproduction) is for two people to pair up for a long period of time.

Really. Somehow I doubt that.
Just from my own experience.

Deleted user

And how was he mentally ill?

Dom. Don't ask stupid ridiculous questions. He was a serial killer. He got off over murdering innocent women. That is obviously mentally ill.

Deleted user

Yeah I'm pretty sure it creates a culture of violence against women during sex being normalized. I feel like I've seen so many different posts on so many different social media platforms about women's shitty and abusive sexual experiences because a lot of men learned about sex through porn, which is really toxic.

Okay I can see that actually, but on the other hand– not all porn is like that. You could say that the men that go searching for that kind of porn alrady have some kind of issue on how they were raised.

I disagree. What specific kind of issues do you mean?

Treatment of women as you mentioned before. If a child is raised thinking that disrespecting women is okay. Say by how he sees his father treating his mother, or the other male figures that he looks up to in life treat/say things about women. It's natural for him to thing that aggressive, disrespectful sexual acts are the norm.

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But male sexuality is a very strong urge that can easily lead to all sorts of things.

lol. What a statement.
What about's women's?

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Yeah I'm pretty sure it creates a culture of violence against women during sex being normalized. I feel like I've seen so many different posts on so many different social media platforms about women's shitty and abusive sexual experiences because a lot of men learned about sex through porn, which is really toxic.

Okay I can see that actually, but on the other hand– not all porn is like that. You could say that the men that go searching for that kind of porn alrady have some kind of issue on how they were raised.

I disagree. What specific kind of issues do you mean?

Treatment of women as you mentioned before. If a child is raised thinking that disrespecting women is okay. Say by how he sees his father treating his mother, or the other male figures that he looks up to in life treat/say things about women. It's natural for him to thing that aggressive, disrespectful sexual acts are the norm.

And using women’s naked bodies as playthings for their pleasure respects women how?

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^^Maybe not. Sure he was messed up. But maybe not with a born disease. Perhaps he gave it to himself by his bad choices in life.

He was diagnosed as extremely bipolar and a psychopath during his trial?

@Moxie group

Yeah I'm pretty sure it creates a culture of violence against women during sex being normalized. I feel like I've seen so many different posts on so many different social media platforms about women's shitty and abusive sexual experiences because a lot of men learned about sex through porn, which is really toxic.

Okay I can see that actually, but on the other hand– not all porn is like that. You could say that the men that go searching for that kind of porn alrady have some kind of issue on how they were raised.

I disagree. What specific kind of issues do you mean?

Treatment of women as you mentioned before. If a child is raised thinking that disrespecting women is okay. Say by how he sees his father treating his mother, or the other male figures that he looks up to in life treat/say things about women. It's natural for him to thing that aggressive, disrespectful sexual acts are the norm.

Okay I get that. But I also think that you don't have to go searching for porn like that. And men can easily learn to disrespect women from porn.

I don't think only it's porn or how they were raised that causes men to be violent sexual creeps. I think its typically a mix of the two or one or the other in certain situations. However, I feel like normalized sexual violence specifically mainly comes from porn.

Deleted user

Yeah I'm pretty sure it creates a culture of violence against women during sex being normalized. I feel like I've seen so many different posts on so many different social media platforms about women's shitty and abusive sexual experiences because a lot of men learned about sex through porn, which is really toxic.

Okay I can see that actually, but on the other hand– not all porn is like that. You could say that the men that go searching for that kind of porn alrady have some kind of issue on how they were raised.

I disagree. What specific kind of issues do you mean?

Treatment of women as you mentioned before. If a child is raised thinking that disrespecting women is okay. Say by how he sees his father treating his mother, or the other male figures that he looks up to in life treat/say things about women. It's natural for him to thing that aggressive, disrespectful sexual acts are the norm.

And using women’s naked bodies as playthings for their pleasure respects women how?

I didn't say that it did?

Deleted user

Hmm. Crap. There goes my case there.

Research, darling. ;)

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Yeah I'm pretty sure it creates a culture of violence against women during sex being normalized. I feel like I've seen so many different posts on so many different social media platforms about women's shitty and abusive sexual experiences because a lot of men learned about sex through porn, which is really toxic.

Okay I can see that actually, but on the other hand– not all porn is like that. You could say that the men that go searching for that kind of porn alrady have some kind of issue on how they were raised.

I disagree. What specific kind of issues do you mean?

Treatment of women as you mentioned before. If a child is raised thinking that disrespecting women is okay. Say by how he sees his father treating his mother, or the other male figures that he looks up to in life treat/say things about women. It's natural for him to thing that aggressive, disrespectful sexual acts are the norm.

And using women’s naked bodies as playthings for their pleasure respects women how?

I didn't say that it did?

What else’s is prostitution and porn but that, and highly disrespectful?

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When I say 'look for' I mean like using the search bar in pornhub to look up 'rough sex'