forum Things You Want LESS Of In Books
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@The-N-U-T-Cracker

Catgirls and fox/wolf anthros
it's so unoriginal
like if you're gonna make animal people be creative with it, no one needs another shy smexy kitty cat gimme the mountain goat dude with a long beard despite only being 16 who makes a terrible roommate cause he eats the entire fridge whenever you turn your back and every night as you're trying to sleep he just starts fecking screaming at the top of his lungs

@Relsey-TheElder

It's the most whimsical and it has the least Amount of Allegory in it, so yeah it's the best one, the last one is the worst because it is so painfully an Allegory.

@Starfast group

Not sure if I've mentioned this before, but not every book needs to be a multi POV. I really do like both reading and writing books with more than one POV, but they're just not always needed. This seems to be something I that I see primarily on Wattpad, but I can think of some examples in published novels as well where there's a POV for every character and their dog. Like there's obvious benefits, but it's insanely boring from a reader's perspective to have to slog through chapters about the main character's third grade teacher or whatever, that adds little, if anything to the story. Sometimes less is more.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Idk what to call it but it pisses me off. PC that doesn't vibe right. DON'T PUT A FREAKING MERMAID IN. A. WHEELCHAIR! THEY DO NOT HAVE THE PROPER ANATOMICAL STRUCTURE TO BEND AT THE WAIST.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

So what about povs for a little bit. Has anyone read a good one that bounces around heads? I'm pretty sure it's frowned upon. But I really want to do something like that in Marked. I really have no other way of showing things that are really important to me the story like Octavia and Rune's relationship and the way Silas thinks.

@Relsey-TheElder

I have actually, "The Land of stories." Changes perspective in the later books I haven't read them in a while so I don't know if that nostalgia speaking of the actual content. "The Sisters Grim." Also jumps around a bit I think but the Nostalgia issue is also present. As much as I hate the third "Warriors" series, it did a pretty good job at perspective jumps. "Les Miserables" jumps around a lot and while the transitions are not great you can tell which chapters are from Marius's point of view and which are from Valjean's.
All of these are from third person, I know I've read some good First person ones but I can't remember the title at the moment.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

Yeah I think I'm gonna do third person. Make it easier on myself.
I read The Bridge to Neverland which was eh I guess but the perspective changes felt smooth even though it jumped all over the place.

@ninja_violinist

Bouncing around heads is frowned upon unless you're Virginia Woolfe in which case it's art and the most clever and unusual thing the world has ever seen
Mrs Dalloway is a trip and a half

@Pickles group

So what about povs for a little bit. Has anyone read a good one that bounces around heads? I'm pretty sure it's frowned upon. But I really want to do something like that in Marked. I really have no other way of showing things that are really important to me the story like Octavia and Rune's relationship and the way Silas thinks.

They Both Die at the End had good POV switches between the main characters (first person), but it had brief switches to other characters in third person which I didn't totally mind since it was a neat concept, but it was a little annoying at times.
Since Relsey mentioned Land of Stories, when I first read them I ate them up. And then I reread them and realized the writing was awful. but I mentioned it to my sister and she got really mad at me. Good plot though and I did like the POV switches

@HighPockets group

My sister adores The Land of Stories, she got the boxed set for Christmas (since we found it cheap at Costco) and she's got to have reread them like 4 times by now.

@HighPockets group

As for POV changes, I think that The Lunar Chronicles does 3rd person POV switches pretty well, as does Six of Crows and The Diviners.
Red Queen handles 1st person POV switches pretty well although it's sort of annoying that they're not introduced until King's Cage (and Iris's POV is sorta unnecessary in War Storm). Salt to the Sea does too, since all of the leads have pretty different voices.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

So what about povs for a little bit. Has anyone read a good one that bounces around heads? I'm pretty sure it's frowned upon. But I really want to do something like that in Marked. I really have no other way of showing things that are really important to me the story like Octavia and Rune's relationship and the way Silas thinks.

They Both Die at the End had good POV switches between the main characters (first person), but it had brief switches to other characters in third person which I didn't totally mind since it was a neat concept, but it was a little annoying at times.

I considered that. But I thought bouncing between first and third would annoy people.

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

As for POV changes, I think that The Lunar Chronicles does 3rd person POV switches pretty well, as does Six of Crows and The Diviners.
Red Queen handles 1st person POV switches pretty well although it's sort of annoying that they're not introduced until King's Cage (and Iris's POV is sorta unnecessary in War Storm). Salt to the Sea does too, since all of the leads have pretty different voices.

But there isn't a lead voice really except for Daniella. But Nathaniel gets the pov for a bit. So maybe they each get a chapter?..

@HighPockets group

As for POV changes, I think that The Lunar Chronicles does 3rd person POV switches pretty well, as does Six of Crows and The Diviners.
Red Queen handles 1st person POV switches pretty well although it's sort of annoying that they're not introduced until King's Cage (and Iris's POV is sorta unnecessary in War Storm). Salt to the Sea does too, since all of the leads have pretty different voices.

But there isn't a lead voice really except for Daniella. But Nathaniel gets the pov for a bit. So maybe they each get a chapter?..

I switch POVs (3rd person) a lot, but not chapter-by-chapter.