forum Things You Want LESS Of In Books
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@Pickles group

"Yo wassup my homie? How you doin' bro?"
"… Are you okay?"
"Fit as a fiddle, why do you ask?"
"You talk funny."
"My dude, I pick up the slang when people come up here."
"Yeah okay, bye. I'm just gonna go."

I imagine they'd sound like old people trying to fit in

@Kinarymo

But fr now
I feel like the "strong girl is automatically tomboyish or mean or smth" trope is a little bit overused. I too have a setup that includes a single girl, but i dont really know how to make her strong without her being mean or too tomboyish

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

But fr now
I feel like the "strong girl is automatically tomboyish or mean or smth" trope is a little bit overused. I too have a setup that includes a single girl, but i dont really know how to make her strong without her being mean or too tomboyish

It really depends on what the strength is supposed to be. There are different strengths. Some are found more often in males and vice versa.

@HighPockets group

Also the "tomboy is automatically a lesbian" trope.

That's a thing? Wow.

I see it a lot more in fan communities, but a lot of times a woman who has more stereotypically masculine traits or hobbies is assumed to be a lesbian.

@Starfast group

But fr now
I feel like the "strong girl is automatically tomboyish or mean or smth" trope is a little bit overused. I too have a setup that includes a single girl, but i dont really know how to make her strong without her being mean or too tomboyish

Maybe just make sure she isn't too dependent on other characters. Put her in tight situations that she can get out of either by herself or with little help from your other characters. Let her save the day a couple times (not all the time though, you don't want her to be a Mary Sue, especially if she's the only girl).

But also @Althalosian-isTerrifyingWalnutDeathDemon is right about there being different types of strengths. Figure out what she's good at and use those skills to have her help the other characters. Like for instance, I know it's kind of cool to hate on JKR but I feel like she wrote a lot of really good strong female characters. Hermione is a good example- she's super smart, and there's a lot of scenarios where Harry and Ron make it out alive because of that.

@HighPockets group

JKR has some very bad takes, but her female characters are excellent. Even in just the major characters, you've got Hermione, Ginny, and Luna who are all strong in different ways, not to mention a good array of female side characters (Tonks, Mrs. Weasley, the Quidditch girls) and villains (Bellatrix, Umbridge, Narcissa).

@Althalosian-is-the-father book

I think one thing you could do to establish strength is to have people rely on her. Back to Hermione, the boys always knew they could rely on her. That showed that they were fully aware of her strength.

@ninja_violinist

Something I've found really useful in making characters "strong" but in different ways is figuring out which of the Clifton Strengths they have - it's kind of like the MBTI personality test, except it evaluates what kinds of thigns you're inclined to be good at, if that makes sense. There are 34 options and you pick the top 5 (for actual irl personality testing there's a whole question process that you pay for, but the type descriptions are free).
(and then it's easier to put my characters into situations that would challenge that specific part of their personality)

@HighPockets group

I think one thing you could do to establish strength is to have people rely on her. Back to Hermione, the boys always knew they could rely on her. That showed that they were fully aware of her strength.

Yeah, as much fun as the unexpectedly strong character is, a character whose strength is known is also good. It also makes the scenes where Hermione is panicked, injured, or otherwise unable to help them more impactful, like when she panics in the Devil's Snare or is injured in the Department of Mysteries.