forum Things You Want LESS Of In Books
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@Euric_Knight

Like, I'm fine with people writing fanfic, but it bugs me when people hold fanfic authors up as 'better than the canon/better than [published author]' because you can't be better than the canon if you wouldn't have a story without the canon, and you can't be better than a published author if you can't come up with your own characters.
Fanfic should stay fanfic.

some voltron fics actually

@HighPockets group

Yeah, I feel like supernatural creatures get demonized (pun obviously intended) by people who mock YA, but like….vampires, fae, angels, demons, and werewolves would be awesome if they were handled right!

@Relsey-TheElder

The problem with fae and other supernatural creatures in most YA works is they are all extremely shallow races, there's next to no depth or culture to that race and what is there just feels like a lazy half attempt. They're so romanticized that some writers think they can just throw them into a book and call it good. One of the reason Tolkin Is so fantastic is all of his species are well thought out, I'm not asking for tolkin I'm asking for real effort, With the mainstreaming of supernatural beings a lot of what makes them supernatural to begin with is being lost, a lot of them come from old Celtic, Greek, Roman, Norse, Scottish, Egyptian Mythologies (I am aware I'm missing mythologies) and the spooky, mystical qualities of these beings are being destroyed by the oversimplification of what they are. Elves are a great example of this, when you here about Elves in most fantasy you instantly have an image in your head of what they should be, but where in writing do you see there culture gone into, and effort being put into the creation of that culture.

@HighPockets group

The problem with fae and other supernatural creatures in most YA works is they are all extremely shallow races, there's next to no depth or culture to that race and what is there just feels like a lazy half attempt. They're so romanticized that some writers think they can just throw them into a book and call it good. One of the reason Tolkin Is so fantastic is all of his species are well thought out, I'm not asking for tolkin I'm asking for real effort, With the mainstreaming of supernatural beings a lot of what makes them supernatural to begin with is being lost, a lot of them come from old Celtic, Greek, Roman, Norse, Scottish, Egyptian Mythologies (I am aware I'm missing mythologies) and the spooky, mystical qualities of these beings are being destroyed by the oversimplification of what they are. Elves are a great example of this, when you here about Elves in most fantasy you instantly have an image in your head of what they should be, but where in writing do you see there culture gone into, and effort being put into the creation of that culture.

IT'S TRUE AND YOU SHOULD SAY IT!
If you want YA with good fae, check out An Enchantment of Ravens! It's made very clear that they are not human, even if they appear more or less human at times, and they have things they can and can't do.

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gah all of my supernatural creatures really stick to their origins and/or i focus a lot on creating a true culture for them so there's back story about why they are how they are.

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Takes off glasses.
I can't see shit.
Anyhow, if someone takes off their glasses, it looks like your trying to dry your head off without a towel

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Nah, just changed my name.
It's Lex/Logan/Whoever the fuck I am/I dunno

@HighPockets group

Is that the "taking off glasses" type dealio?

No, it's the trope where a robot/alien/supernatural being is totally clueless about everything/has no idea how humans work, but is still super hot and everyone wants to fuck them.