forum Debate. Debate. Debate.

Started March 14, 2019 by Deleted user

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Skim milk is cow water

I agree with the one about fat people. I'm fat, and it is causing me serious health problems.

Even better, skim milk is anti-vegan water
_{(it's a joke, don't kill me)}

Even better, skim milk is anti-vegan water
_{(it's a joke, don't kill me)}

Perfect

not really a fan of any of those topics. (shrugs)

Are y’all pro-PETA? personally, i'm against them because while they have the right ideals, they go about it all wrong. and they’re super pretentious.

PETA ruined Meat Boy for me. And Mario. And Cooking Mama.

PETA is evil.

Mario???
also, the way they handle shelter pets is disgusting. they’d rather post pictures of cow boobs than …oh i don’t know…make an actual difference

I have five Instagram accounts.

I’m blocked on all of the main peta Instagram accounts, even if I tried to point out that while humans can sustain herbivorous diets, we are originally omnivores. I was even being polite.

Let’s just say I’m not a huge fan.

I’m all for treating animals as living creatures with their own rights, but after a few specific events involving PETA, Instagram, and my sister, I can’t say I support them. (I’ll go into detail once I’m on my computer)

I think I've advertised it a million times to the point where everyone knows, but just in case, my sister, Anna, has an Instagram with a pretty decent sized following.
Her account focuses on her "fiber farm" consisting of English Angora rabbits, Pygora goats, and the occasional guard cat or baby chicken.
What is this "fiber farm", you may ask? Well, it's basically a farm of animals raised mostly for their high-quality, luxury floof, but in her case, they're also for showing in competitions (or at least the rabbits are). In this farm, they're loved, fed, properly cared for, and live very happy lives, in fact, Anna works her rear end off every day to make sure all of them are healthy. How does she obtain the floof? She takes a special pair of clippers and uses it to slowly, carefully, trim it off. This hurts the rabbit/goat about as much as it hurts you to get a haircut- It doesn't at all unless something's done severely wrong, which almost never happens.

PETA, however, refuses to believe that shearing animals for their wool/fiber/floof is a humane thing to do, spreading lies and misrepresenting all those who do so. Their most well-known case of this would probably be this image, depicting a man holding this violent, exaggerated, plastic replica of what they want you to believe a sheared sheep looks like.

Just so you know how messed up that is, here's a realphoto of a sheared sheep.

So, as you may have expected, her account gets a ton of crap for "promoting animal abuse", at one point (if I'm remembering correctly) she was almost banned for it. She's since uploaded multiple videos of the shearing process, and the hate is dying down quite a bit, but that doesn't justify what PETA's been doing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjiInkBhj_-/

They make it seem like shearing the rabbits is a cruel, horrible thing when in reality, it would be cruel to not shear them because the rabbits are incredibly heat-sensitive and, considering how dense their wool is, they'd probably die a painful death once the weather gets too warm. They're trying to manipulate people and put fiber farms like hers out of business and that absolutely ticks me off.

And let's not even mention the average percentage of animals they kill every year…

(Extra evidence)

Religion should not be taught to children.
in agreement because children are easily indoctrinated and once you teach them something like that they often continue for the rest of their life without even considering the other point of view

I was taught religion as a child, and I’ve ….completely rejected it.Catholicism is not for me. but if someone wants to share their religion with their kids, then they should be able to. If the kid doesn’t want it later, then that’s fine.

Religion should not be taught to children.
in agreement because children are easily indoctrinated and once you teach them something like that they often continue for the rest of their life without even considering the other point of view

If this is so, how is it possible for the people of Gen X to have turned away from their parents' (or parent's) religion? Most Gen Xers were raised in Christian families, but later rejected this and became "none affiliated."

I would have to disagree. If the parents truly believe that in order to save their child from hell they must teach them about their religion, we should probably let them. If you don’t teach the child anything, they most likely won’t try to form their own opinions, they’ll just end up being Atheists/Agnostic for the rest of their lives.

My parents are Catholic. I’m Catholic. Yes, they taught me to be this way, but that doesn’t mean these aren’t my true beliefs. I’ve seen what I believe to be evidence that there is, indeed, a god watching over us, a life after death, and a way to be truly happy. I wouldn’t have seen these things if no one ever taught me, and I’m extremely thankful that I was raised this way.

^^^
except I'm UMC

A lot of religions are like "don't just believe me, go look stuff up and ask questions" and a bunch of "QUESTIONS ARE OKAY SO ASK THEM". at least in my experience

I'm Catholic. I was raised Catholic, and have been volunteering at my church for a while now. The only thing is, I'm not sure I believe what I'm teaching, and I want to become Wiccan. That's not sitting well with my parents, who have control over me due to my age. Advice, anyone?

Um… wait until you move out?

I think, if you wish to avoid as much drama as possible, you should probably wait until you're older before completely converting, but I don't really know…
I'm really bad at advice when it comes to this stuff

Definitely wait a little. It's a big decision and it will affect your parents and you. You might want to talk to them about it, and really think decisions like that over. If you aren't comfortable teaching something you don't believe (Which you shouldn't be comfortable with anyways), you probably shouldn't be teaching it anyways. At the same time, it's really important that you're starting to make your own decisions and really think for yourself about these kinds of things.

Thank you guys. On a debate topic, do you guys believe all religions are valid religions? Why or why not?

Valid, maybe. I have my religion, and I do respect that you all are entitled to your beliefs. I just believe some other religions are wrong, but those are again part of my own beliefs. So, I think my belief is valid, and disagree with others. The same way other religions disagree with me and believe I'm wrong. So it's really a personal belief thing, and everyone is going to privately think everyone else is wrong. (Idk if any of that actually made sense)

Valid, maybe. I have my religion, and I do respect that you all are entitled to your beliefs. I just believe some other religions are wrong, but those are again part of my own beliefs. So, I think my belief is valid, and disagree with others. The same way other religions disagree with me and believe I'm wrong. So it's really a personal belief thing, and everyone is going to privately think everyone else is wrong. (Idk if any of that actually made sense)

^that. I'd also like to add that someone's religion shouldn't invalidate them as a person or make them be treated poorly but that's kind of off topic a bit

I think that children should be taught religion in a school setting. But they should be taught in an unbiased and respectful environment about ALL religions. Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Catholicism, Christianity, etc.
The first step to acceptance, understanding, and the destruction of racism is knowledge and teaching that we all aren't so different.