forum That's Debatable
Started by @Natasha
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(I feel like a small school child being questioned…) Well, he didn't really know at first. Then, when things picked up, he didn't agree with any of it; he thought it was wrong.

@Masterkey

How did I not find this thread before???

But I actually think the right and wrong debate is this simple: if you believe in God, then right and wrong are not relative. If you don't believe in God, then right and wrong are relative.

Then it gets more complicated with which god(s) you follow if you believe in God, or which people you decide to listen to or not listen to if you don't believe in God. I'm a Christian, and right and wrong are not as set in stone for every little detail as some fundamentalist Christians make it out to be. The Bible says the whole "law" boils down to loving the Lord your God with all your heart soul and mind, and loving your neighbor as yourself. God doesn't care as much about your individual actions as much as your heart. So you could be doing something like donating to charity, which the world would see as a good thing, but if you were doing it for selfish reasons without love then God counts it as nothing toward you. Same thing goes for if you were beating somebody up. Some people might see it and think it was wrong, that you were hurting someone. Sure. But what if that person was attacking your friend? What if you were retaliating in self defense? God can see the heart, and take that into account, while humans CAN'T see the heart, and their ideas of right and wrong change all the time.

At least, that's what I believe. I think the Bible explains the "grey area" that you all are talking about.

@Oakie Dokie

or that one dude in Black Panther who wanted to use the resources of Wakanda to help put an end to Racism, that one cut me deep because I literally get paid to do the exact same thing :P

@Masterkey

Natasha and @Oakie Dokie, Haha you're welcome XD

Yeah, I'm ready for a new topic! How about POLITICS?!

I kid. Unless you all really want to.

@Masterkey

I think police brutality is a thing, yeah. No doubt about it. But I wouldn't say it's as widespread as some people make it out to be, if that makes sense. All the bad stuff gets publicity, while the good stuff doesn't really. When the media paints a violent, negative picture, they get more viewers and therefore make more money. Doesn't mean that police brutality ISN'T a thing, but we can take hope that there are great men out there who do their jobs right. :)

I haven't really researched it that much though… what do you guys think? How could we fix the problem?

@Natasha

Some police are corrupt. There is no question of that. It can't be permanently stopped because there will always be sin in the world. But people need to start focusing on the positive.

@Oakie Dokie

personally once again, i get paid to research and help prevent things like this, and honestly there isn't much we can do. i do agree with you that it's not as widespread as some people believe it to be, but it is still a major problem that leads to several other problems such as rioting, mass incarceration, yaddah yaddah yaddah. The problem is, the people who are doing it believe in their minds that they truly are doing the right thing. in my area specifically it's a problem with Hispanic populations getting stopped on the regular and given 20 year sentences for minor crimes. what my company has been doing is working to lessen sentences for minor crimes and, more recently, influenced the passing of a state law requiring all police to take a culture class before being able to handle situations like this, and we're also working with the police department to reinforce de-escalation tactics. I hope deep down this can be lessened to a reasonable extent, but at the same time it's a longshot.

@Masterkey

Yeah I agree with you on that, Oakie. But there's no question that we need the police. There's been some real problems by forcing police out of some neighborhoods, and then we see crime rates and murder rates shoot up. It's a pretty difficult line to walk. We need police, but we need good men as police, too.

@Oakie Dokie

yup yup!! ^-^
now, branching off of this, do you think community watches in communities (so as to not have police in the area) actually work, and could help the situation a little?