forum That's Debatable

Started February 17, 2018 by @Natasha

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Does anybody else like to debate?

Yup.

It depends on the topic.

I love to debate! I spent 20 minutes debating whether water is wet or not.

I do! If someone gets me started on a topic, I can rant for hours and hours on end about it.

My English class and I spent like 45 minutes debating the importance of rules. And @Celestial-B, SAME!!!!!!!!!! Anybody up for a little debating???????

Sure! Topic?

Ummm…………… the difference between right and wrong?????

They're exact opposites, of course! Abstracts on opposite sides of the field!

But sometimes the difference is blurred. Mixed together.

That's also exactly true, I'd say really, it depends, there are too many variables.

It also depends on a person's views of right and wrong. Biblical views of right and wrong are the true and straightforward views, because they come from God. Therefore we should follow them.

It all depends on your upbringing!

I guess it does. But it also depends on your influences. Bad influence= Wrong. Good influence=Right.

Yup.

Right and wrong are abstract concepts. Every villain thinks they’re right, and every hero fears they’re wrong.

@lyandie Perfect!

And psycopaths have no knowledge of right or wrong. Mic drop

Some of them do! They just simply don't care!

Well that may be true. Right and wrong are different. Abstract. On different sides. But most times people believe that right and wrong don't matter. Many people believe that all paths lead to Heaven. They don't.

in my opinion, while we use them to justify our actions, they don't really exist. how can we truly know who really is right or wrong, good or bad? it's all based on your perspective. I could be completely wrong, but I could also be right. I could be both and neither. at the same time. think about it.

I'm just going to say, think about Disney's Hunchback of Notre-Dame. The bad guy is an example of perspective.

true, but where was his mindset? it wasnt right to everyone else, it wasn't wrong to him.

He thought he was doing what his lord wanted.

and what did the Hunchback think?

(I feel like a small school child being questioned…) Well, he didn't really know at first. Then, when things picked up, he didn't agree with any of it; he thought it was wrong.

How did I not find this thread before???

But I actually think the right and wrong debate is this simple: if you believe in God, then right and wrong are not relative. If you don't believe in God, then right and wrong are relative.

Then it gets more complicated with which god(s) you follow if you believe in God, or which people you decide to listen to or not listen to if you don't believe in God. I'm a Christian, and right and wrong are not as set in stone for every little detail as some fundamentalist Christians make it out to be. The Bible says the whole "law" boils down to loving the Lord your God with all your heart soul and mind, and loving your neighbor as yourself. God doesn't care as much about your individual actions as much as your heart. So you could be doing something like donating to charity, which the world would see as a good thing, but if you were doing it for selfish reasons without love then God counts it as nothing toward you. Same thing goes for if you were beating somebody up. Some people might see it and think it was wrong, that you were hurting someone. Sure. But what if that person was attacking your friend? What if you were retaliating in self defense? God can see the heart, and take that into account, while humans CAN'T see the heart, and their ideas of right and wrong change all the time.

At least, that's what I believe. I think the Bible explains the "grey area" that you all are talking about.

Gasp @Masterkey you put my feelings into words!!!!!

@Masterkey thank you!! :P

A good example of a morally grey character is Star Wars’ Doctor Aphra.