There is not absolute "good" and "evil"
A lot of it is bias, perspective and each person's values
There is not absolute "good" and "evil"
A lot of it is bias, perspective and each person's values
I agree that while good and evil exist as concepts made by us humans, they are useless when brought into reality… It's like a viking proverb…
"No man is do pious that he is exempt from evil, and no msn is so wicked that he is worth naught."
We're humans… Absolute good and evil are impossible for us to attain…
Lol of course there are! Or else one day rape could be good. (As in it could become morally acceptable by the masses.)
As in if there is no such thing as objective morality, then good is determined by the people. So therefore, hypothetically rape could be considered socially acceptable, and therefore "morally correct".
I think I understand what you mean.
Ah, we had a conversation about this not so long ago in one of my clubs. Essentially, what I got from it is that "good" is acting for the benefit of others, not the self. "Neutral" is often acting in the interest of the self, but not at the expense of others. "Evil" is acting in the interest of the self, with no care as to who takes damage along the way (not limited to killing, of course). Most of us are neutral, but we sometimes do good things.
That does help and makes plenty of sense. Thank you @Becfromthedead.
Thanks. That kind of explanation is what happens when you allow a group of tired college students to sit around and be philosophical…
You have no idea how happy I am to have helped.
What if it's for the good of someone other than you, but at the expense of someone else? (sorry I don't think anyone knows the answer. Just throwing it out there.)
I think it goes like this… Good is determined both by you yourself, and the majority of humans… You don't think rape is good, and neither do the majority of humans, myself included… So rape is evil… It's that simple…
Then you get into the "Greater Good" discussion. And I answer that the ends do not justify the means.
Or else it would be okay to kill some random innocent person to save the life of someone else.
(I guess that would have to be in a magic world but the point still stands.)
I think it goes like this… Good is determined both by you yourself, and the majority of humans… You don't think rape is good, and neither do the majority of humans, myself included… So rape is evil… It's that simple…
But remember what I said.
I'll ask you a question if all humanity thought rape was okay, (except for the victims) would it be?
But would it be okay to kill someone to save someone else? That's basically my question.
Hmmm, idk. Then, it's all perspective. It's not evil, I don't think, unless the motivation to help said person was selfish (like, let's say it was your boss who needed help, and you think you could get a promotion out of it.)
Sometimes there's no good way out…
On the topic of perspective, though, you know that phrase "to hell with good intentions?"I think that might kind of apply, especially in cases where you do something you perceive as helpful or correct (and not in your self-interest alone), when really you're hurting everyone involved.
Oh, we're talking about killing people now…
These are all good points. This kind of thing is hard to make sense out of.
I mean it's understandable, but not good.
I think it goes like this… Good is determined both by you yourself, and the majority of humans… You don't think rape is good, and neither do the majority of humans, myself included… So rape is evil… It's that simple…
But remember what I said.
I'll ask you a question if all humanity thought rape was okay, (except for the victims) would it be?
It very well used to be that way… In certain Nordic cultures where warriors took slaves of war as wives… Men were judged on how many "wives" they had… These wives did not consent and were often well… But nonetheless it was seen as "good" or "admirable" in ways… If humanity as a whole were somehow like this… Then, yes, it would be… And that makes me want to take a cold shower…
Killing an innocent to save another single person is not good…
Killing someone who is endangering another person's life (trying to kill them/physically harm them) is not great, but more acceptable…
Sacrificing one to save many? Hard to say… my personal code says it's okay, but in the perspective of the moral code I just explained, I'm not so sure.
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