forum Magic Potions, Mad Tea Party, Alice in Wonderland... (brainstorm with me please?)
Started by @kat_i_am
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@kat_i_am

hey guys here's a question
why the heck does Alice get to be the new queen
what did she do to deserve it

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Uh um because most of the people like her?????? Ignore that, that's really crappy

@kat_i_am

Are they maybe all trying to figure it out, and then the Jabberwocky convinces Alice to step forward, promising he'll help her if she needs it?

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Maybe Cheshire Cat wants her to be queen since she's his friend?

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Well would you consider Alice to be nice to the people and fair?

@kat_i_am

Well would you consider Alice to be nice to the people and fair?

I think she has no idea how to run a kingdom, so she doesn't want to, but I think she gets coerced in, as a pawn (which is also a subtle nod to TtLG)

@mckapo

Are they maybe all trying to figure it out, and then the Jabberwocky convinces Alice to step forward, promising he'll help her if she needs it?

I like this, the jabberwocky having multiple pawns, on opposing sides (like the Knave), doing whatever he can so that in the end, he gets what he wants no matter what

@kat_i_am

Are they maybe all trying to figure it out, and then the Jabberwocky convinces Alice to step forward, promising he'll help her if she needs it?

I like this, the jabberwocky having multiple pawns, on opposing sides (like the Knave), doing whatever he can so that in the end, he gets what he wants no matter what

Yes exactly okay ty

@mckapo

maybe she could be a figurehead during the rebellion, and people look to her for hope, so naturally after the death of the queen of hearts, some people are voting that she be the new ruler, while others want Knave or someone else, and the jabberwocky is in the background influencing each contending party

@kat_i_am

maybe she could be a figurehead during the rebellion, and people look to her for hope, so naturally after the death of the queen of hearts, some people are voting that she be the new ruler, while others want Knave or someone else, and the jabberwocky is in the background influencing each contending party

ooh I like that
I'll prob simplify it though, with just Alice being a real contender (she's already a public figure, no one will vote for someone they've never heard of, and I'm thinking the Knave is away on business so he misses the coronation/election thing. But he still ends up as Alice's advisor/Royal assassin. But the jabberwocky is using them both as pawns. Whichever one is more useful, he'll discard the other, and eventually get himself on the throne

@mckapo

maybe she could be a figurehead during the rebellion, and people look to her for hope, so naturally after the death of the queen of hearts, some people are voting that she be the new ruler, while others want Knave or someone else, and the jabberwocky is in the background influencing each contending party

ooh I like that
I'll prob simplify it though, with just Alice being a real contender (she's already a public figure, no one will vote for someone they've never heard of, and I'm thinking the Knave is away on business so he misses the coronation/election thing. But he still ends up as Alice's advisor/Royal assassin. But the jabberwocky is using them both as pawns. Whichever one is more useful, he'll discard the other, and eventually get himself on the throne

good good.
And then Alice dies in the end, so who controls the Knave? jabberwocky. so wonderland is left at the mercy of that creature. boom.

@mckapo

so innocent, for now, naive Alice is appointed ruler ,the Knave her advisor. maybe you could start with the execution of the queen of hearts, with the coronation happening right after

@kat_i_am

so innocent, for now, naive Alice is appointed ruler ,the Knave her advisor. maybe you could start with the execution of the queen of hearts, with the coronation happening right after

Almost. Knave assassinates the Queen in a coup, then has to go do something, Alice is crowned in the meantime. Knave is mad, so Jabberwocky strikes a deal with him in the meantime (Jabberwocky is almost like Rumplestiltskin in OUAT, I just realized that).
then I had one more note but I forgot

@mckapo

oh yes, sounds great!
So, what are you thinking after.
Alice is thrust into a position she doesn't want, she starts thinking of Peter, cue flashbacks, doesn't want to grow up and be queen? Will you be incorporating your several rivers at some point ?

@kat_i_am

She's reluctant, but takes the position bc her friends promise her their aid. She's been provided with a way to stay a child forever (I mean… I think I've settled on her age at 13 so uh she's technically a teen), and now wants to help all of WL stay young forever too. I think I'll use some of the rivers for experimentation, some for travel (I have one specifically for that) and others will just be magic sources (eg Meminileth)

@kat_i_am

ALRIGHT I HAVE ALL 7 RIVERS NAMED

  1. Meminileth- river of insanity (guardian character tbd)
  2. Caligo- river of dark magic (might change to shadow river but who knows)
  3. Meraculis- river of light magic (also open to changing name away from "light magic" to something similar)
  4. Eochaose- don't have a specific "river of" but this is a tumultuous river used mainly for travel. Water is also used in baking summoning crumpets, and teleportation potion-teas
  5. the Border river- border separating WL from Time
  6. The Uncrossable and Unknowable River (literally no data or actual name for this one)
  7. Avidissumuscienta- River of Knowledge (that's a v long name I know)

@mckapo

ALRIGHT I HAVE ALL 7 RIVERS NAMED

  1. Meminileth- river of insanity (guardian character tbd)
  2. Caligo- river of dark magic (might change to shadow river but who knows)
  3. Meraculis- river of light magic (also open to changing name away from "light magic" to something similar)
  4. Eochaose- don't have a specific "river of" but this is a tumultuous river used mainly for travel. Water is also used in baking summoning crumpets, and teleportation potion-teas
  5. the Border river- border separating WL from Time
  6. The Uncrossable and Unknowable River (literally no data or actual name for this one)
  7. Avidissumuscienta- River of Knowledge (that's a v long name I know)

These rivers are awesommmmeeeeeeeeeeeeee'

You know, I think we should collab on a story.
Google doc it up, man!

@mckapo

I'm trying to start a private thread with you, mckapo, but it's not working?

are those different than PM's?

@kat_i_am

no it's the same
do you wanna try and start it? your username isn't popping up when I type in the recipients, which is weird bc I'm already in a chat with you?