forum Things You Want LESS Of In Books
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@HighPockets group

Good filler: side quests, character growth, calm-before-the-storm, after-action patchups, talking through plans/trauma
Bad filler: sex, pointless banter, fights with no good motive or resolution, describing what the character is eating or wearing in full detail.

@Becfromthedead group

Speaking of describing what the character is wearing in full detail… anyone else just sick of that thing that happens at the beginning of lots of YA novels and self-insert fanfic where the main character either describes their appearance in full detail for no reason or is looking in a mirror and taking in every one of their features? Kind of drives me nuts because it's just not… realistic I guess, to look at yourself in such great detail.

@HighPockets group

Yeah….like, I have a 3rd person narration story so my characters get described by each other. Generally certain characters will describe the others less harshly, or notice something about them that others wouldn't. Such as the first thing that Jon notices when seeing Therese is that she has the same eye color as her brother Oliver, whom Jon loves, as opposed to Nich's first reaction being her height or Nell's being how pretty and confident she is. Joan usually doesn't notice eye colors because she avoids eye contact.

@soupnana group

IKR!?!? Like, I love to know what the characters look like, but I don't want to know the exact angle of the tip of their nose and the length and width of their face! Just do it subtly… gradually. This one book I read literally only described the main character with long brown hair and her being short because it was first person and who in the world goes around describing themselves!?!? And there is a picture of her on the main cover, so we don't need to know what she looks like because the author confirmed that that is what she looks like.

@Relsey-TheElder

Yeah….like, I have a 3rd person narration story so my characters get described by each other. Generally certain characters will describe the others less harshly, or notice something about them that others wouldn't. Such as the first thing that Jon notices when seeing Therese is that she has the same eye color as her brother Oliver, whom Jon loves, as opposed to Nich's first reaction being her height or Nell's being how pretty and confident she is. Joan usually doesn't notice eye colors because she avoids eye contact.

And that Makes SENSE, Unlike, "I took in my reflection, natural platinum blond hair, deep blue eye's, my sun kissed skin and freckled button nose. slim shoulders and dainty arms. The figure hugging periwinkle blue floor length ball gown I wore was adorned by intricate beading, each bead sparkling individually in the light, the beads were stitched onto the fabric to create the illusion of flower petals that made up the flowing full skirt that swished around my ankles. My shoes were a bright silver, bright butterfly dissing could be seen placed on the shoe by hundreds of painstakingly placed crystals. The shoes matched my jewelry a simple silver chain wrapped around my slender neck with a shimmering butterfly pendent that appeared as if it would fly away at any given moment."

@Relsey-TheElder

That was so classically bad it was an enjoyment to read.

Thank you I tried, The one and only time this would be ok, it if the main character is highly narcissistic.

@Story_Siren group

Good filler: side quests, character growth, calm-before-the-storm, after-action patchups, talking through plans/trauma
Bad filler: sex, pointless banter, fights with no good motive or resolution, describing what the character is eating or wearing in full detail.

Yes yes yes! So true, and THAT'S what we need more of in books!!!

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Have you guys ever seen One Piece of Dragon Ball? The filler in those shows is on a whole other level.

@HighPockets group

That was so classically bad it was an enjoyment to read.

Thank you I tried, The one and only time this would be ok, it if the main character is highly narcissistic.

True. What's even worse though is the main character being all like 'look at me, I'm BEAUTIFUL! Hey, random male character, why aren't you staring at me, even if you're not attracted to women? I'M PRETTTTYYYYYY!!!! But not as pretty as I used to be boo hoo but it's okay because I'm still hot! Look at my dress it's so pretty but not as pretty as meeeee!"

@sheyna

Hey, I'm new to this chat and I gotta ask:

Would you consider an alcoholic character drinking heavier than usual and then drunkenly breaking down in front of another character an acceptable filler?

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I have two words: Unesseacary Romance
(Yes I know it is spelled wrong.)

@HighPockets group

Books where every single character ends up in a romance, especially if it's with a character they had no interest in. Bonus nope points if every relationship is a straight one.

@soupnana group

Hate it when books have a plot line where you could just guess what will happen next.

YES! Seriously predictable plots are so boring. Like, what's the point of reading a book if you can tell what's gonna happen? I am reading this amazing book and there are so many twists and turns that I can't even foreshadow the page ahead. It's not a bad thing, it's great.

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Okay I remembered something!
I don't know the name of it, but it's something my dad does a lot when talking to me about a school project, grades, etc. where he'll say something and I'll understand and tell him I get it, but he just keeps going and asking me again/telling me unnecessary details.
So like when an author needs to point out every little detail about something.

oof i'm so sorry
so i was reading this list, thinking, "thank god i don't do most of these - my villain already exists in canon so i can't really do anything about him (i'm writing a marvel fanfic about hypothetical endgame), my oc is okay, the love is very slow burn… oh. shit."