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Started January 06, 2019 by @The-N-U-T-Cracker

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NUUUUUU Well then, I've got nothing… Sorry

It’s alright

Okay so many hours later I have returned

Annnnd i hate it

Didkdkdodkdkdkdkodd all of the stupid trouble i went through only for it to get ruined at the eyes

So ignore the shit shading, and the eyes, and basically everything about the face

Here you go, warning again for the good christian eyes or whatever

Okay. Imma try and give some constructive criticism here. My advice is a little invalid though cause I can't draw guys in the first place. This is entirely judging off tips I've seen on IG.
So first of all, his neck is still UBER thick. Unless he is the worlds buffest man or he does weights with his neck, it should be a little thinner, seeing as it's about as thick as his head.
Second, his eyes are a tad too close. That might just be the way he looks, but move one eye over just a tad and it should look natural. The rest of the face looks great though!
Third, the ear is a little too small. They should go from the edge of his eyes, all the way down to his mouth region.
Fourth, the male anatomy is pretty detailed. You can leave it simple if you want, but something about it feels flat. I also suggest making his muscles a bit more square. Men tend to have much more angular bodies than women.

So that is basically all the advice I can give. I think his expression looks great. He definitely looks angry. And the hand is AMAZING. I am not one for such rude gestures (I am a good christan _{(more like LDS but same catagory)} so yeah) but I can stand them. And despite the man flipping me off, I'm cool with it cause his hand is so nicely drawn. Ha ha. After maybe thinning the neck, it might look really good. The veins and muscles in it are fairly accurate to a normal neck. His elbow looks good! The elbows I draw always end up looking too pointy, but seems like you have figured out how to draw them.

That's all I got. I hope it helps! It's a really nice drawing, and with small adjustments, it could become super amazing! <3 I hope I didn't completely destroy any sense of pride you had in this drawing…. cause I personally feel like whenever I give "constructive" criticism I feel like such a jerk. Just know that I love your art and you are super talented! Keep up the good work Emi!

Ty @Soup_Nana_and_co! Like I said perviously, it's my first time in a LONG WHILE that I've drawn faces at such an angle (far away, at least) and just male bodies in general. The neck is an easy fix (though I'll have to change the deltoids ughgjghgnfhfndjksksnds) but I'm not so sure what to do about the flat body etc, I found the simplest reference and just used it as to not confuse myself into not making such a big jump. I'll change the ear back then, bc I originally had it somewhat bigger than what it was.

Also thank you on the hand bit. Originally that was what the piece was, just the hand, which is why it's so detailed and stuff. Hands are nice. I like hands.

Don't feel like a jerk, you delivered what I wanted. And thank you! I love your art too.

^_^ Glad I could help!

Okay so many hours later I have returned

Annnnd i hate it

Didkdkdodkdkdkdkodd all of the stupid trouble i went through only for it to get ruined at the eyes

So ignore the shit shading, and the eyes, and basically everything about the face

Here you go, warning again for the good christian eyes or whatever

He’s a thick boi XD.

I am not the best person for body anatomy, but faces I’m the best with, and necks(as in it’s the only thing I can kind of draw…) the neck is WAY too thick, extremely thickness. He is in 3/4 view correct? If so then the right side is right, the left side however isn’t. If it helps try and have the left part of the neck go a bit just a small bit over from where the left cheek and chin meet. Sine he looks buff, and from his head looking a bit smaller then anything pro tip: the head is usually the size of shoulder to elbow, and elbow to hand, torso is similar, half of the torso is one head, the bottom is the same. So if you really want to check try rulers, finger measurements, protractors, and other things, even a pencil laying down on the paper can help. the ear, it looks good but I can’t critic it because well I never draw ears and when I do they’re garbage. The hand is amazing, I never drew hands well, and I probably won’t until I constantly draw them. The only thing that seems a bit off is the arm, well being frank the part of the arm going from shoulder and elbow, it seems a bit short, and the other part of the arm is fine. The shading, some of it is a bit off, okay the arm pit area. Depending on the lighting it should either be a bit darker and go out a bit farther, or be thinner. You didn’t shade enough really, the neck doesn’t look shaded, the arm could be shaded, so can the hand and face, I only see a bit on the neck and the armpit. I’m fine with shading, but too little shading makes me a bit mad, especially when there’s only really one place. I know it isn’t done just wanted to point it out. Now the eyes, I use this tutorial, and the eyes should *if they’re the same size) be seperated by around one eye of the same size. Your eyebrows on the character, bring the right one up a bit, the chest, okay so ment sometimes have less curves, men chests are only really rounded from fat or water weights, and since he is muscular it will be a bit more square shaped.

Well yeet yote howdy I took the advice the best I could and now I have the "stunning" piece.

Only when I was editing and cropping the picture did I realize the angle was alllllllllll wonky. So um… sorry that you had to cope through that. I tried to fix it through the twist of the torso I was trying to pull off, and I don't think it looks good. I think if I did the whole page/body with just this, it would look better (the sprial of my sketchbook kinda got in the way lol).

Anyway I think I have a renewed sense of "why the hell I hate eyes". Anyway enough of me bellyaching here's the final result.

once again Christian child eyes please look away

Nice! He is starting to look really good. (Also, might just be me, but I think the fact that there are three dates beside him is hilarious. Excuse my over-observation.) I like that you are adding more shape to his muscles. It really helps even out the drawing. The abs do look slightly too harsh. The abdominal muscles tend to have a certain amount of shape and shape to them, rather than just a checker pattern (not that the abs in your drawing look like a checker pattern. That's how the abs I draw end up looking. Ha ha.) I suggest looking up abs and what they look like, because using references is totally allowed. I use them all the time. And if you want the world to know that you were looking up abs for the sake of drawing, add drawing the the search, cause I know that if people looked at my search history and saw the searches for "abs" and "man muscles" they'd be thoroughly confused. Ab drawings tend to be easier to reference because the lines are more prominent.
And, of course, you can leave the drawing be and be happy with how it looks. I think it looks great, but there is always room for improvement. I'd totally understand if you want to be done with it cause you are sick and tired of making changes.
_{Again I can't say how good that hand is. Flippin (heh get it) amazing! I can't even draw hands so I applaud you with these blob like looking hands I drew for myself. And holy cow I just accidentally highlighted the picture and it turned blood red cause that's the color of my highlighter. It's like this man went from angry to fricken ticked off at me in a second.}

I suggest looking up abs and what they look like, because using references is totally allowed. I use them all the time.

Ima start here bc I actually did this and was incredibly confused xD

So I think after this milestone check thing?? I'm going to focus on 1) men 2) muscles and 3) angles.

But thank you for the compliments! And ye the three dates beside him got me giggling faintly as I wrote them down, reminding me how pathetic I am to keep tooting the horn on this crushed trumpet xD

So i think 'm done with the piece

Also lmaooooooo I hope I don't give you nightmares!!

Well, I'm glad I could help with what I could. The drawing looks great and I still can't get over how good the hand looks. HNNNNNGHHH! Kinda jealous cause fricken hands seem to be the one thing in my life that still confuse me completely. I HAVE HAD THESE HANDS FOR 15 YEARS! You'd think I could study them better. Ha ha. Well good luck on your quest to better learn more about men, muscles, and angles. :) You are super talented Emi and I love that drawing, again despite the fact he is flipping me off.

Hands are fun. Mainly bc I found a reference and a way to draw fingers/hands that work for me, soooo yeah! I wish you luck with your hand quest. It's not that bad once you start drawing them (says me, who has only been focused them for a bit).
Also tytytytytytyt and sorry about the flipping off thing. I was very angry, and plus why would a grown man like that be holding up the pinky finger?

Very true. I'm cool with him flipping me off. It actually is kinda comical cause every time I look at him it reminds me of this battle that these two dudes where they just keep flipping each other off. Each time more vigorously than the last. It's hilarious.

Normally I’d disapprove of a drawing like that but heck, that’s really well done, keep up the good work! I really need to learn how to draw guys but it’s such a scary task… How do you do it?

Guys in my opinion… aren't hard to draw like… at all. You'd just have to be careful of their legs, changes in curves and the chest if you wanted to draw one. And if you were doing a… per say, graphic realism, well… just be careful who ya show it to. Honestly it's not that hard, but I started out in drawing guys so it comes more naturally I guess 🤷🏻‍♀️

I put my art on a Pinterest board, so here it is
https://pin.it/qg4slzk2gct5gj

I doodled a “Helooooo” because boredeth

That's so cool and creative Ella! I really like the E…. and the L… and the H. Hecc, I love all the letters.

That's so good!!!

Ella, that's so good!! The colours are beautiful, I love it!

@GalaxyUnicorn ooh, I really like them!

I drew another thing!

Awesome!!!

Oooh I love it!

Oh, also I drew something. I'm not very good with colored pencils, but I guess practice makes perfect

(Fricken frick why are they always sideways!?)

And yes, I realize that one eye is too high and her nose is a tad low. I'm going to deal with it for now cause when I start messing up like this is means that I am improving, so YAY.