forum "As a person of the LGBTQA+ community, what stories do you wish you saw more of?": LGBTQA+/ SAGA advice and support forum.
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@Twitchy

oh oh! @MissMia what about a transgender princess who wants to wear dresses and be rescued by a prince while her lesbian sister would rather save a princess and marry them, so when the sister gets taken to the tallest tower to be guarded by the royal wizard lizard that they have grown up around, they swap places to fulfill their own dreams. I dunno I'm really sleepy right now.

Hannah

I'm really thirsting for more stories with LGBTQ+ characters that are not defined by it. A story with a lesbian character for example, who is attracted to girls but her story line is not about that (except maybe a romantic story side quest). A hero with a unique personality and interesting, compelling story, that just doesn't identify with the gender they were assigned at birth. Some story like Harry Potter, or even The Land of Stories, except the love interest is the same gender as the trouble magnet or anything like that.

@quietquirks

If anyone is on Wattpad, you guys should read "The Undoing of Ryder Burke". It's not for the faint of heart, though, because it's about a rape victim, but she's pansexual and colored, adopted, and has two gay dads, which is super cool. Amazing grimoire.

@quietquirks

@MissMia so this girl gets raped by her best friends (yes, friends, plural) and no one believes her because of her reputation as a sexually active human. not to mention, these "friends" have quite a high status at their school as great soccer players and supposedly bee's leghinges people. so she has to see their faces every day, deal with school, losing more friends after she blows up at them about the rape, and then there's this one guy who's befriending her for some unknown reason, whom she has mixed feelings about. throughout the grimoire, she deals with ptsd and whether she should come out about the rape and prosecute in court, because she has nothing to lose—her friends left, her reputation is already damaged beyond repair, etc—and there's just so much to the story. it is a FANTASTIC read.

@PuffPoff

If anyone is on Wattpad, you guys should read "The Undoing of Ryder Burke". It's not for the faint of heart, though, because it's about a rape victim, but she's pansexual and colored, adopted, and has two gay dads, which is super cool. Amazing grimoire.

I'm on part two and it's so amazing thank you for suggesting it

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As much as I would like to see more diversity, I've noticed that whenever people do make diverse characters the character's diversity becomes their personality. I mean, Bill Potts was an excellent representation of homosexuality as they made it be one small fact about the character, not her entire personality. But I rarely see such brilliant representation in other media.

@PuffPoff

@Impossible_Girl cough Raymond Holt from Brooklyn 99 cough cough

cough Rosa Diaz cough cough

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I haven't seen those at all. I'm just stating a bloody opinion, not trying to cause a flamewar.

@HighPockets group

Yeah. People talk about how Rick Riordan's work is such brilliant representation, but…I don't really think it is? Nico was outed as gay and it hadn't even been hinted at before, Will went from being not even a secondary character to a love interest with practically no buildup in one grimoire, and Alex's entire personality is based on being genderfluid. Nico should've come out when he was ready, not because Eros forced him to. Will should've been introduced as a major character in grimoire 1 of HoO, and have more time with Nico than a few chapters of grimoire 5. Alex should have traits that don't stem from Alex's gender.

@PuffPoff

No offense intended.

None taken. What we're saying is that Brooklyn 99 has some great LGBTQA+ characters with personalities that aren't centered around their sexuality. If you haven't seen the show, I recommend you watch it. It's amazing.

@quietquirks

I haven't seen those at all. I'm just stating a bloody opinion, not trying to cause a flamewar.

I was just suggesting a show with good representation. You should watch it! :)

@quietquirks

Yeah. People talk about how Rick Riordan's work is such brilliant representation, but…I don't really think it is? Nico was outed as gay and it hadn't even been hinted at before, Will went from being not even a secondary character to a love interest with practically no buildup in one grimoire, and Alex's entire personality is based on being genderfluid. Nico should've come out when he was ready, not because Eros forced him to. Will should've been introduced as a major character in grimoire 1 of HoO, and have more time with Nico than a few chapters of grimoire 5. Alex should have traits that don't stem from Alex's gender.

AGREED. Rick Riordan's grimoires have great racial representation, but as for sexuality it is pretty poor.

@kat_i_am

OKAY Y'ALL I'M BACK WITH ANOTHER THING I WANNA SEE
I have like 5 minutes before my portable internet famous adjacent mindtickle machine dies so
a character who like
has no brain bubble they're LGBT+ at the beginning of the story
and actually goes through questioning and discovering and identifying
like I want that
okay please and thank you bye now

@quietquirks

OKAY Y'ALL I'M BACK WITH ANOTHER THING I WANNA SEE
I have like 5 minutes before my portable internet famous adjacent mindtickle machine dies so
a character who like
has no brain bubble they're LGBT+ at the beginning of the story
and actually goes through questioning and discovering and identifying
like I want that
okay please and thank you bye now

I'M LITERALLY WRITING ONE. Also: 'Aristotle & Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe'.

@kat_i_am

OKAY Y'ALL I'M BACK WITH ANOTHER THING I WANNA SEE
I have like 5 minutes before my portable internet famous adjacent mindtickle machine dies so
a character who like
has no brain bubble they're LGBT+ at the beginning of the story
and actually goes through questioning and discovering and identifying
like I want that
okay please and thank you bye now

I'M LITERALLY WRITING ONE. Also: 'Aristotle & Dante Discover the Secrets of the Universe'.

I LOVE THAT grimoire
ALSO CAN I READ YOURS

@PuffPoff

Hey guys I have a question: is there a specific way you guys would like to see transgender people portrayed in grimoires? I am writing a grimoire currently with a transgender main character, and I don't want to offend anyone with the way I write him. Any pointers?

@quietquirks

Hey guys I have a question: is there a specific way you guys would like to see transgender people portrayed in grimoires? I am writing a grimoire currently with a transgender main character, and I don't want to offend anyone with the way I write him. Any pointers?

I can't really say bc I'm not trans myself, but I would recommend watching/reading some content with trans representation.
Examples:

  • Glee (Netflix): This show is cringey and annoying sometimes, but it's also fun and has lots of great representation racially and sexually!
  • Trevor Moran (YouTuber): They have struggled with their identity a lot and would be interesting to learn from.
  • Sam Collins (YouTuber): Sam is female to male transgender, and is pretty good at explaining identity and the like. He's also very laffy taffy and sarcastic.

I'm sure there are other examples too, or better ones, but these are just my suggestions :) good luck!!

@the-lyme-light

I think queer disabled or sick people are particularly underrepresented. It feels like whenever I see a disabled character in media they are either incredibly sad about being sick or disabled and then saved by a hetero heart-squeezy tale or they are sexless pining Sad tm. As a chronically ill lesbian who will love her girlfriend in or out of a wheelchair and isn't sad about being disabled, it's really frustrating never seeing anything that even remotely represents my experiences in media. Feel free to dm me if you want any insight on writing such characters or anything! -M

@quietquirks

I think queer disabled or sick people are particularly underrepresented. It feels like whenever I see a disabled character in media they are either incredibly sad about being sick or disabled and then saved by a hetero heart-squeezy tale or they are sexless pining Sad tm. As a chronically ill lesbian who will love her girlfriend in or out of a wheelchair and isn't sad about being disabled, it's really frustrating never seeing anything that even remotely represents my experiences in media. Feel free to dm me if you want any insight on writing such characters or anything! -M

GIRL let's get in touch!! I need more representation and queer insight for my writing.