forum Things You Want LESS Of In Books

Started January 21, 2019 by @HighPockets group

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I disagree. There's nothing wrong with having a strong woman, she just needs to be actually strong and not a cardboard cutout trope.

ALSO!
THE 'BORN SEXY YESTERDAY' TROPE NEEDS TO BURN IN ALL OF THE CIRCLES OF HELL!

Also characters whose personality changes as the plot demands. The author's inability to write consistently doesn't equal character growth and development. Same thing goes for character regression being passed off as character growth.

I disagree. There's nothing wrong with having a strong woman, she just needs to be actually strong and not a cardboard cutout trope.

I understand this, but take a look at YA dystopian.
A lot of them are strong women who take down the government. The hunger games started this trope and its really annoying seeing YA dystopian just being female oriented. Why not have a teenage boy take down the government? Why no trans-person, or non-binary, or genderfluid?
There is nothing wrong with having a strong woman.
But sometimes its overused far too much in one way.

The strong females only in YA trope needs to die.

I disagree with this to an extent. Strong females, when written well, are great. "Strong" females whose entire personalities revolve around the fact that they can fight or whatever need to die and never come back.

Like there's absolutely nothing wrong with girls who can fight but I take issue when a character's entire personality is just like "Look I have a sword! I'm tough! I can fight! I'LL KICK YOUR A** AND I DON'T NEED A MAN!" especially when they end up with a man anyways That's a one dimensional character, and that's bad writing.

I disagree. There's nothing wrong with having a strong woman, she just needs to be actually strong and not a cardboard cutout trope.

I understand this, but take a look at YA dystopian.
A lot of them are strong women who take down the government. The hunger games started this trope and its really annoying seeing YA dystopian just being female oriented. Why not have a teenage boy take down the government? Why no trans-person, or non-binary, or genderfluid?
There is nothing wrong with having a strong woman.
But sometimes its overused far too much in one way.

The Maze Runner is a male-oriented dystopian. And Ender's Game. And Ready Player One, I think? Those may count as sci-fi, but still.

I disagree. There's nothing wrong with having a strong woman, she just needs to be actually strong and not a cardboard cutout trope.

I understand this, but take a look at YA dystopian.
A lot of them are strong women who take down the government. The hunger games started this trope and its really annoying seeing YA dystopian just being female oriented. Why not have a teenage boy take down the government? Why no trans-person, or non-binary, or genderfluid?
There is nothing wrong with having a strong woman.
But sometimes its overused far too much in one way.

The Maze Runner is a male-oriented dystopian. And Ender's Game. And Ready Player One, I think? Those may count as sci-fi, but still.

Touche.

The strong females only in YA trope needs to die.

I disagree with this to an extent. Strong females, when written well, are great. "Strong" females whose entire personalities revolve around the fact that they can fight or whatever need to die and never come back.

Like there's absolutely nothing wrong with girls who can fight but I take issue when a character's entire personality is just like "Look I have a sword! I'm tough! I can fight! I'LL KICK YOUR A** AND I DON'T NEED A MAN!" especially when they end up with a man anyways That's a one dimensional character, and that's bad writing.

I'm just tired of seeing it only in dystopia. If this trope was more relevant in other genres and wasn't so compacted into dystopian, i wouldn't have an issue with it.

This is what I got out of this.

Smart kids.
Brown eyes.
Passion not market.

I actually made this girl really pissed because she thought I was being a sarcastic ass when I said "Then in that case I humbly beg your pardon."
Hell yeah! (I have brown eyes and the color range is epic.)
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay back to the brown eyes:

They are the prettiest fuckin things and no one can tell me otherwise. I don't understand blue eyes. Like… how do you romanticize that shit? It's just fuckin blue and its fuckin boring.
Brown is dark, warm, welcoming, mesmerizing and gentle. Brown eyes are beautiful and to everyone who has them, be fuckin proud.

My eyes are as greenish yellowish brown as the ground outside underneath all the snow. My best friend, on the other hand, has bright gold eyes _{^{and I'm lowkey jealous of them}}

_{Legit. I feel you.}

My eyes change colors from grey, blue, to a green. It's extremely irritating because one day they look hella blue and the next they look green…
Me and my bf who both have it refer to it as biokinesis… so color changing eyes are a thing. :D So theres somethin you can add to a character.

Anyway.

Sweet.

Lowkey my brother's blue eyes ombre and they are absolutely gorgeous. It's super unfair

Nah, come on, its just blue. Brown is like the night sky on a warm summer's eve when all the stars begin to shine their glory.

Nah that's dark blue.

inhale _{fuckin smartass}

I like both blue and brown eyes, brown is all warm and cozy while blue reminds me of summer and beaches and all that good stuff

inhale _{fuckin smartass}

Just a country boy.

Nah, come on, its just blue. Brown is like the night sky on a warm summer's eve when all the stars begin to shine their glory.

INHALES

My brother's eyes literally go from midnight blue to WHITE you cannot tell me that is not beautiful.

Nah, come on, its just blue. Brown is like the night sky on a warm summer's eve when all the stars begin to shine their glory.

INHALES

My brother's eyes literally go from midnight blue to WHITE you cannot tell me that is not beautiful.

It's not beautiful.

Nah, come on, its just blue. Brown is like the night sky on a warm summer's eve when all the stars begin to shine their glory.

INHALES

My brother's eyes literally go from midnight blue to WHITE you cannot tell me that is not beautiful.

It's not beautiful.

One wishes to acquaint your facial features with a fundamental item used in building walls. Repeatedly.

One wishes to acquaint your facial features with a fundamental item used in building walls. Repeatedly.

I know I'm supposed to be constantly positive but
THAT IS THE BIGGEST OF MOODS

Nah, come on, its just blue. Brown is like the night sky on a warm summer's eve when all the stars begin to shine their glory.

INHALES

My brother's eyes literally go from midnight blue to WHITE you cannot tell me that is not beautiful.

It's not beautiful.

One wishes to acquaint your facial features with a fundamental item used in building walls. Repeatedly.

Thank you.