Sup, folks. Dom is here. I'm not exactly a scholar, but I know more than the average person about church history and am willing to answer questions. If you have a character that's Christian, or are just wondering about a church's outlook on a specific issue, this is the chat. Any Christian can answer any question but there might be disagreements. Curse the Great Schism.
Aight @Thing1. Did you have a question?
Birth control. Why is that frowned upon?
Good question! The Christian belief is that sex is for procreation at least as much as anything else including pleasure and emotional bonding. To divorce sex from it's natural function is seen as trying to split something's nature. There is also the command to have children if you aren't doing something else like living a life under a vow such as being a monk. There are natural ways to actually have sex and not children, but I believe even then it is frowned upon to use such methods to prevent having any children.
Ahh, I see. So, if I'm understanding, sex is for baby makin', nothing else?
No. It's for lot's of things. But baby making should be involved at some point or another as that is the biological function of sex and so the reason that it exists.
Gotcha gotcha.
The church has always viewed sex as a very good thing not to be ashamed of. But sex for personal pleasure and nothing else is not good.
Some forms of birth control would be more acceptable than others. For example, the morning after pill would be frowned upon because it’s technically an abortion pill. An IUD would be better because it just prevents the embryo from forming.
But traditionally both are still wrong. American/Protestant churches are way lax.
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(Sorry to drop in to correct you butttt)
Morning after is not an abortion pill by any means. It has the same function as birth control pills- to stop ovulation. Same with IUDs
Also birth control is used for so much more than not having babies.
Well technical corrections are more than welcome.
On some research, it looks like it can work as an abortion pill as it can stop a fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus.
Also birth control is used for so much more than not having babies.
Oh yes. To regulate hormones and prevent pain during cramps, right?
Yeah, basically. Is that frowned upon too? Because I have heard of girls who had endometriosis and strict Christian parents who wouldn’t let them get on the pill, which greatly helps with those kinds of things.
I feel like if you, a teenage girl, ask your Christian parents to go on the pill, they're going to say no no matter the reason simply because it means that you could have safe(r) sex
Yeah, basically. Is that frowned upon too? Because I have heard of girls who had endometriosis and strict Christian parents who wouldn’t let them get on the pill, which greatly helps with those kinds of things.
I don't think so? I mean, if you have to screw up your fertility in order to deal with life than you have to. I can see reluctance. But if someone needs it because severe pain I would imagine it would be okay.
I feel like if you, a teenage girl, ask your Christian parents to go on the pill, they're going to say no no matter the reason simply because it means that you could have safe(r) sex
I mean leave out the safer and I think you have it.
I mean, yes and no. My mom is super conservative Christian, but she’s a big advocate for birth control (and to my surprise pro-choice). She made sure I got on it when I got a boyfriend. It really depends on the family (and I also deep down believe that some of this is actually used to oppress women, which I won’t get into, but it has to do with misuse of religious beliefs)
I feel like if you, a teenage girl, ask your Christian parents to go on the pill, they're going to say no no matter the reason simply because it means that you could have *sex with limited consequences and hide it more easily because of the lack of a baby
I mean leave out the safer and I think you have it.
I feel like if you, a teenage girl, ask your Christian parents to go on the pill, they're going to say no no matter the reason simply because it means that you could have *sex with limited consequences and hide it more easily because of the lack of a baby
Ay there you have it.
I mean, yes and no. My mom is super conservative Christian, but she’s a big advocate for birth control (and to my surprise pro-choice). She made sure I got on it when I got a boyfriend. It really depends on the family (and I also deep down believe that some of this is actually used to oppress women, which I won’t get into, but it has to do with misuse of religious beliefs)
Oh feel free to get into it. The traditional church has always been strongly Pro-life though. And very pro strict chastity.
pro strict chastity
I don't know why, but this made me cackle
Well technical corrections are more than welcome.
On some research, it looks like it can work as an abortion pill as it can stop a fertilized egg from attaching to the wall of the uterus.
Just gonna—-pop in here to correct this and then go back to observing–
Fertilization does not happen instantaneously.
It can take up to 6 days before sperm and egg to come together. THEN it can take an additional 3-4 days for the egg to implant itself into the uterus.
The morning after pill must/should be administered between 24-48 hours after unprotected sex to be effective. They use progestin to stop the ovaries from releasing an egg.
So no, it's not an abortion pill.
I just believe that women, who have been systematically oppressed for centuries, are oppressed in religion as well. Even if the Bible is the word of God, it was physically written down and also translated by imperfect humans who were a product of their time and would interpret this word to be one that was more controlling over the sexuality of women.
Also I believe there is a lot of cherry-picking when it comes to Biblical law. People follow the things they want to basically.
As to your first point, I think it is unwise to dismiss such a possibility. Humans are imperfect creatures after all.
Well I ask what you mean, but I'ma point out something as well to save time. There are rules in the Bible for Jews and rules for Christians. Many overlap, but Christians need not follow like 99% of the Ceremonial law of the Jews (such as wearing two fabrics and eating milk and meat together.)