forum tips for writing a teenage catholic/christian character?

Started September 14, 2020 by @darling-velocipede group

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"There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

Beat me to it :(

ha, i win. shakespeare points and cool quote points

which denomination was it that most hispanic(primarily mexican) families are? i can't remember which it was

Catholics. Same with Irish. Stereotypes a bit ofc.

does that mean that most of them aren't actually, or just that it's a 'stereotype' despite it being true?

partially because i generally have only written characters with similar views to myself (atheist/agnostic, maybe with some family ties to religion) and want to try accurately portraying something different, and partially because i thought it would be interesting to contrast with the theme of the novel– personal identity, and the aesthetic– american consumerism, creepy road trip style.

So do you want a character that is slightly religious, very religious, or between?

between, i guess? she's grown up in a very religious family, and has a good relationship with them for the most part. but she also drinks loads on occasion, is gay (very repressed), and has experiences with these weird haunted things that religion doesn't exactly justify lmao

Probably a chill Catholic then? Also gotta talk more on the Not Gay if that’s gonna be a thing.
As for religion not justifying it’s either a Holy Thing or a Demon Thing pretty much.

please do tell me about the Not Gay in catholic religion, if you wouldn't mind

It definitely depends on the church, in my experience. Some are very supportive, some are…not.

what would the average church be like in 2020? how does a more liberal church work it in with what the bible says and all?

please do tell me about the Not Gay in catholic religion, if you wouldn't mind

Most stick with the No Gay. Has the pope said anything on that, Jyn?

what would the average church be like in 2020? how does a more liberal church work it in with what the bible says and all?

Still fancy. Still old timey morals. Mostly.

no no i don't know what fancy and old timey morals ~mean~ i need details

I….have not been to church in a few months due to COVID, so I can't really say. I know that a lot of queer Christian teenagers are very fine with being both queer and Christian (such as myself and many friends). Other (generally straight) people have a "hate the sin, not the sinner" mentality (which is still toxic as fuck but preferable to, like, conversion therapy obviously). There's a fairly strong case for the passages being mistranslated and actually being against pedophilia.

no no i don't know what fancy and old timey morals ~mean~ i need details

Pro life, no gay, no euthanasia for a few.

hmm yes good to know. what do the 'hate the sin not the sinner' folks say?

please do tell me about the Not Gay in catholic religion, if you wouldn't mind

Most stick with the No Gay. Has the pope said anything on that, Jyn?

Pope says no marriage, but queer people should be accepted into the church and not turned away. It goes into more specific detail on his Wikipedia page
There's also a Wikipedia page on sexually active popes, thanks medieval Europe!

gay bad, but gays not Bad

hmm yes good to know. what do the 'hate the sin not the sinner' folks say?

It's basically a really shitty "well I love you, I just don't love that you're gay :/" thing.

lmao my grandmother at me!! brilliant i got it

As someone who's everything in the op, the Catechism of the Catholic church says gay people are fine, they're just not supposed to have sex, but lots of parishes are still homophobic because they don't know their own writings, sadly.

And no gfs/bfs I'd assume.

Personally, I'm not Christian, but my mom and her entire side of the family (50+ people) are LDS, which is a division of Christianity. LDS people have slightly stricter rules than most Christian churches, like they can't drink anything with caffeine (including most sodas, tea, and coffee because it's addictive) and they have a 'Modest is Hottest' rule (I know cringe), so they can't show any stomach, hardly shoulders, and they were long shorts in the summer. Usually, most LDS boys (and sometimes girls) go on an LDS mission after high school. They're assigned a destination and they head there for about two years, trying to convert people to the LDS church. My uncle served in New Zealand, and the rest of my uncles stayed in the US. You can go abroad, my Spanish teacher went to Ecuador and I know a girl who went to Thailand. I've noticed that quite a lot of LDS kids carry a Bible on them when they go to school because of a religious class they take. BYU (and LDS college) only accepts kids who go to the religious classes all four years of high school. LDS kids also go to church every sunday and church lasts 2-3 hours. On Sundays, LDS families don't go out shopping or for fast food, they don't listen to non-religious music or watch non-religious movies. Usually LDS families are large. My grandma at one point had eight kids, two son-in-laws, a grandson and a granddaughter living in the same house at the same time. I know a couple kids who have 11 siblings. LDS people are super traditional and like things how they were. THIS DOES NOT GO FOR ALL LDS PEOPLE, but my grandparents and most of my aunts and uncles are homophobic. (yeah it sucks being a closeted pansexual in a family of homophobes) But one of my best friends and my favorite cousin (who are both extremely LDS) accepted me with a big hug so I repeat IT DOES NOT GO FOR ALL LDS PEOPLE.

Hope I helped!

I am a Christian but not very religious, but from my experience:

Not all Christians are homophobes. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's anything in the Bible that says that being gay, pan, etc, is remotely bad. It's just quite a lot of people are… not anyone that I know, but clearly enough to the point where it's basically like "aLl ChRiStIaNs ArE hOmOpHoBeS" all around the internet.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's anything in the Bible that says that being gay, pan, etc, is remotely bad.

Bruh the Jewish law said to kill the gays. And Paul said they were damned.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38023884

old rules are very different from modern thoughts tho, dom. people are fully capable of learning, growing, and changing their religious view on certain topics

Pretty informative for a Wiki page involving controversy and religion. Though calling Ruth and Naomi possible lesbians is beyond stupid. David and Johnathan as gay is stupid, but I get where people are coming from there.