forum Would anyone like to help me make a utopia?
Started by @saor_illust school
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@Young-Dusty-the-Monarch-of-Dusteria group

Hmm….maybe they use instruments like flutes/horns/pipes/etc. most often because those are the "wind" instruments? And then some drums and/or strings for extra flavor? Plus singing, of course. And for the sound of their music, maybe it kinda mimics airy sounds like the wind, birdsong, storms, stuff like that….it that kinda close to what you meant?

@saor_illust school

oh- what about how the society is ruled? like is it by a single ruler, two, or multiple? or is it a democracy, ruled by the people/representatives?

@Young-Dusty-the-Monarch-of-Dusteria group

Ah that's a good question…..How about a system where, there's a royal family, but also a congress or something, like how England does it kinda? I feel like that might be a good system for a utopia, since the people have a king or queen to look up to and feel loyal towards, while also getting to speak their minds through congress and a vote system. What do you think?

@saor_illust school

Hmm, yeah! THat sounds really good!

Okay so the project that i did with a friend, we had a whole unit on utopias
so we learned that
utopias always devolve into dystopias
so i was thinking
what should be the thing that makes the utopia devolve into a dystopia at some point?

@Young-Dusty-the-Monarch-of-Dusteria group

Well let's see…..what is it about this particular utopia that makes it so great? Because eventually, I think every utopia's downfall is that it tries too hard to enforce/cling to a certain vision of perfection and ends up either collapsing or turning into a tyrannical, controlling society in which everyone is varying levels of fake and miserable. I'm thinking if we know what makes this utopia a utopia, we can bring that something to an extreme and turn it into a bad quality over time.
Off the top of my head, I'd guess that this particular culture's fatal flaw might be its isolation, or rather, its decision to isolate itself from the world. There are many examples in fiction of how this can go wrong, so I think it could be a solid path for our utopia to take, but maybe we want something more unique? idk, do you have any ideas?

@saor_illust school

Yeah, maybe the idea that they can live in perfect harmony forever, given their 'perfect' ruling system.
Of course, that won't always work, but you know…

@Young-Dusty-the-Monarch-of-Dusteria group

Yeah lol, nothing's arder to avoid than internal conflict within a governing body, it seems XD What if, over time, the royal family and the people of the congress started to get different ideas of what was "perfect harmony", and their ideas didn't mesh very well? Maybe some big change happened in their area (climate change, new neighbors, idk), and they had different thoughts on what should be done about it?
(I have to go to work, back later!)

@saor_illust school

Haha yeah, and that sounds good! So I just got an idea. So you know how they say that it only takes one bad… uh apple to ruin the whole batch or whatever the saying was? What if it was only one person who just decided, idk 'war is great!! it's so nice to see people dying everywhere!!!' or something and their ideas started to affect how people who knew them acted and spoke and thought? like, they don't necessarily need to support them but like, having them be there could be the spark for rumours and all sorts of things to start developing in the utopia

@Young-Dusty-the-Monarch-of-Dusteria group

If that person is charismatic or powerful or both, then I think that's absolutely possible. The question is, who are they warring with? Themselves? Some other nearby group on Earth's surface? And even if there is someone saying it's a great idea, war doesn't start for no reason. Was there a major disagreement, or did they maybe run out of some vital resource that someone else refused to give them, thus forcing them to go to war? Or maybe they decided they were better than everyone else and decided to do the old 'invade and conquer' routine?
I do like the way you said it, like the one guy's nasty mentality started to seep into the culture slowly like a virus or something, until it was widespread before people even realized xD

@saor_illust school

Thanks! Maybe- this person doesn't like how the world is ruled because they like killing people or something? And so they tried to come to power or something?

@Young-Dusty-the-Monarch-of-Dusteria group

I mean that sure makes for a nice dramatic story. I'm going to assume this person, whoever they are, is absolutely crazy, like serial-killer-crazy, but knows how to hide it so people aren't afraid of them until it's too late. They live in a peaceful, well-run utopia though, so they're going to have to be really clever and determined if they want to tear it down.
What if they started spreading bad rumors about other countries/cultures until people started hating anyone who wasn't a local? That could start a war pretty quick, potentially, especially if their neighbors started hating them back for it.

@Young-Dusty-the-Monarch-of-Dusteria group

Okay cool! So what kind of nasty rumors could this person be spreading about other countries? Something that would make them seem completely loathsome and irredeemable, I feel like, but also something that couldn't be too easily proven or disproven.

@Young-Dusty-the-Monarch-of-Dusteria group

So like a conspiracy theory sorta deal? I think that could work! People seem to latch onto those stories pretty easily, and once you're a certain level of paranoid, it's really hard to shake.
I think a lie like that would spread especially well if most ordinary civilians have almost zero contact with the other cultures. (Which would make sense if they live on a floating island.) They're emotionally and physically distanced from outsiders, so it would be easier for them to believe nasty rumors about them.
As for the higher-ups that might have more daily interactions with foreigners, the villain guy would have to try harder/take a different tack with them, seems like.

@saor_illust school

lol
uh
i got:

sam
andrew (Our Supreme Lord and Overseer)
escher
thomas
brendan
alex

(and i may or may not've just stolen these names from my classmates aha)

@Young-Dusty-the-Monarch-of-Dusteria group

Yeah you're right, it really does. So….who is Mr. Almas? A business man? A member of the government? A random discontent who somehow gains enough power and popularity to influence the country's leaders? I can't remember if we already decided this lol