forum Please let me critique your characters, I'm procrastinating and need something to do.
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@kiley_arrants ok first of all, THANK YOU SO MUCH !! that might've been the est critique i've gotten. Dani is also my favorite of all my characters. and honestly a big reason i made her a sagittarius, aside from the fact that i thought it fit best, is because i knew i had to make her a fire sign, but i'm an aquarius and sagittarius is kind of the closest one to me out of the fire signs i think. i don't know if it makes sense but they're like the air signs of the fire signs. But yea i'll definitely work on all the stuff you suggested. thank you !!

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@Ash-has-a-One-Piece-problem
Azami
Mannerisms are good, but add more. This is in most character sheets, people only mention how they act when they are nervous or angry. Which is good, but there's more to them then those two emotions. So. How does she act when she's happy? Excited? Comfortable? Tired? How does she show affection? Is she a nervous laugher? How does she react under pressure? How does she act in serious situations?

I don't know if her being triggered by burns needs to go into flaws, maybe mannerisms? But just explain what she acts like when she is triggered by them. Being "loyal to a fault" could go into flaws as well. This implies she could be too trusting, and that her unwavering loyalty could get her into trouble.

For her politics, explain more about who exactly the Yonko are.

Her background is solid. I would explain more about what Frost-Frost Devil Fruit is and how it affected her body. You don't talk about her ability to control frost in her background despite in the beginning. Add it in. Talk about why she was rendered useless, why she was seen as burden. Go in deeper with her character, right now it seems like you're only skimming the surface. Talk about her emotions, what propels her to her motivations.

That's really all I have for her. Try to flesh out her flaws, background, and mannerisms more and she'll be a solid character.

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@zims
Brodie

First thing is identifying marks. The tooth thing is great, but is there anything else that could set him apart? If it got fixed it's not really something people could use to identify him.

Speech is great I love what you have I think it's kinda funny lmao but add in what his speech patterns are. Does he speak with a slight accent (he sounds Canadian to me lmao) does he speak in a sing-song voice? Does his voice get higher pitched when he's nervous or lying?

Okay so the first thing I notice in his motivations is that it seems him almost dying at six months has impacted his life view, which is fine I guess, but it just doesn't seem very logical. Long-term memory doesn't really set in until you're around four years old, so logically he wouldn't even remember his illness, let alone would it impact his view on the world and living life with no regrets. My advice is to change the disease to one that effects older kids (maybe middle school age?) or just change his age when he had the virus or just get rid of the illness all together (i like the idea of him having an illness earlier in his life, so maybe just try to change the age?) and let something else motivate him towards this you only live once type of outlook.

Again in motivations speak more of what he has in his life to get to these goals. Does he take extra writing classes? Did he enroll in cooking classes in high school? Also, does he still plan on being a journalist after college or is he leaving that behind and moving towards a career in culinary arts? If that's the case, maybe just get rid of journalism (unless through high school or earlier in college there were major ways that career idea impacted him)

I like the humor in his joking that whenever he's stressed he says he's gonna become a fisherman in Alaska. Keep it, but add more to what he does when he's stressed. Little things. Just because I feel like if he simply did that everytime he was in a stressful situation it could get a little awkward hahaha. Maybe put it as he tends to just laugh things off in serious situations instead of just the same phrase? It'd be like overusing a joke. But I do love it though.

Again with conditions. If he doesn't remember it, it would not impact his life as greatly as you say it has. I could understand if the illness had lasting effects throughout his entire life, but he seems perfectly healthy. It doesn't make sense that something he doesn't remember would impact his life so greatly. Consider changing the illness to something that affected him more later in his young adult or middle school life.

I like the struggles/obstacles but I feel like you should shorten it a bit. You could sum it up with "Brodie struggles with internalized homophobia." A lot of what you listed could just go into his background.

In religion maybe go a bit more into what exactly the beliefs he's questioning are.

I can understand his mother explaining to him he almost died and him processing it, but still. He doesn't personally remember the experience, he doesn't remember how he felt then, it shouldn't impact his entire world view. (I've said this so many times I'm sorry if I'm coming across mean!) Other than that his background is pretty solid! Talk more about how his desire for a career in journalism impacted his high school career and talk more about his desire to cook.

His tendency to constantly make impulsive and reckless decisions is played up a lot in his sheet, and contradicts with his ability to buckle down and study. Someone who is as impulsive and reckless as Brodie should have a much harder time making himself really sit down to study or do homework. My suggestion is to either play down is impulsiveness or talk more about how it takes a lot of effort on his part to really study. Maybe constant nagging from a parent or something like that.
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Jason

Again with speech, talk about his speech patterns as well.

Motivations don't just have to revolve around what the character wants to do out of college. It could be something like, what is making them continue school? What's keeping them from dropping out? Simple things, people, like family, friends, pressure, etc. What motivates him to play hockey?

Explain how he's able to just get over his anger and switch on his charisma again? What breaks down that wall? Because with what I've seen from his personality it seems like it'd be hard for him to come to a compromise at all.

With struggles/obstacles, again, you could just sum it up in a few words and put the details into his background. That's what makes more sense to me, but it's fine if you don't want to.

Talk more about what Jason's PTSD is like for him and how it effect his day to day life.

That's really all I have for your characters! They're both pretty solid. I'm sorry if I came off harsh in anyway, all of this is meant to be taken as suggestion

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@zims
Brodie

First thing is identifying marks. The tooth thing is great, but is there anything else that could set him apart? If it got fixed it's not really something people could use to identify him.

Yeah I'm not great at thinking of identifying marks so I'll take a look into that.

Speech is great I love what you have I think it's kinda funny lmao but add in what his speech patterns are. Does he speak with a slight accent (he sounds Canadian to me lmao) does he speak in a sing-song voice? Does his voice get higher pitched when he's nervous or lying?

I'll definitely go into more speech patterns. He's Minnesotian so I can definitely clarify that's where the accent's from

Okay so the first thing I notice in his motivations is that it seems him almost dying at six months has impacted his life view, which is fine I guess, but it just doesn't seem very logical. Long-term memory doesn't really set in until you're around four years old, so logically he wouldn't even remember his illness, let alone would it impact his view on the world and living life with no regrets. My advice is to change the disease to one that effects older kids (maybe middle school age?) or just change his age when he had the virus or just get rid of the illness all together (i like the idea of him having an illness earlier in his life, so maybe just try to change the age?) and let something else motivate him towards this you only live once type of outlook.

Yeah, so the whole Kawasaki thing is something I have experience with and that's wear it came from. There's yearly check ups either till your 8 or as long as they're still concerned and there's this constant "I can't believe you didn't die" kind of air about it. The tests also really suck, and I'll also add the whole testing after the fact stuff to the character sheer.

Again in motivations speak more of what he has in his life to get to these goals. Does he take extra writing classes? Did he enroll in cooking classes in high school? Also, does he still plan on being a journalist after college or is he leaving that behind and moving towards a career in culinary arts? If that's the case, maybe just get rid of journalism (unless through high school or earlier in college there were major ways that career idea impacted him)

All I really have is just a small note that his family taught him how to cook so I can add more to that, and to the writing too. He's definitely leaving behind the whole journalism thing except for maybe a fall back. I thought I wrote it down, but it might just not be clear, but the whole going off and deciding to go for a culinary career is a bit of a risk for him. His grandparents get mad at him about it and all that jazz.

I like the humor in his joking that whenever he's stressed he says he's gonna become a fisherman in Alaska. Keep it, but add more to what he does when he's stressed. Little things. Just because I feel like if he simply did that everytime he was in a stressful situation it could get a little awkward hahaha. Maybe put it as he tends to just laugh things off in serious situations instead of just the same phrase? It'd be like overusing a joke. But I do love it though.

Yeah, I'll definitely change that so it doesn't say "when" like always and is more like "if he's really stressed" or "sometimes when he's stressed"

Again with conditions. If he doesn't remember it, it would not impact his life as greatly as you say it has. I could understand if the illness had lasting effects throughout his entire life, but he seems perfectly healthy. It doesn't make sense that something he doesn't remember would impact his life so greatly. Consider changing the illness to something that affected him more later in his young adult or middle school life.

I like the struggles/obstacles but I feel like you should shorten it a bit. You could sum it up with "Brodie struggles with internalized homophobia." A lot of what you listed could just go into his background.

Yeah I guess that's more just how I like to format my characters.

In religion maybe go a bit more into what exactly the beliefs he's questioning are.

I can understand his mother explaining to him he almost died and him processing it, but still. He doesn't personally remember the experience, he doesn't remember how he felt then, it shouldn't impact his entire world view. (I've said this so many times I'm sorry if I'm coming across mean!) Other than that his background is pretty solid! Talk more about how his desire for a career in journalism impacted his high school career and talk more about his desire to cook.

I'll definitely expand on stuff in his background it's a bit sparse right now.

His tendency to constantly make impulsive and reckless decisions is played up a lot in his sheet, and contradicts with his ability to buckle down and study. Someone who is as impulsive and reckless as Brodie should have a much harder time making himself really sit down to study or do homework. My suggestion is to either play down is impulsiveness or talk more about how it takes a lot of effort on his part to really study. Maybe constant nagging from a parent or something like that.

Yeah, my thing was just, the guy obviously needs to be smart and able to study to get into a college like Yale, y'know. And I figured with the pressure (that's really just from himself) of "both my sisters got into great schools I've got to too" would give him reason to actually be able to settle down and study.


Jason

Again with speech, talk about his speech patterns as well.

Will do

Motivations don't just have to revolve around what the character wants to do out of college. It could be something like, what is making them continue school? What's keeping them from dropping out? Simple things, people, like family, friends, pressure, etc. What motivates him to play hockey?

Motivations give me trouble sometimes so I usually just give them a school/job motivation and then revisit it later. So I'll make sure to work more on that.

Explain how he's able to just get over his anger and switch on his charisma again? What breaks down that wall? Because with what I've seen from his personality it seems like it'd be hard for him to come to a compromise at all.

It's honestly just time. Which I'll look back at him again and try to make sure it's clear. I have a bad habit of writing like blocks of text when describing like one thing so I'll try ad make it clearer.

With struggles/obstacles, again, you could just sum it up in a few words and put the details into his background. That's what makes more sense to me, but it's fine if you don't want to.

Talk more about what Jason's PTSD is like for him and how it effect his day to day life.

Sure

That's really all I have for your characters! They're both pretty solid. I'm sorry if I came off harsh in anyway, all of this is meant to be taken as suggestion

Thanks! I'll definitely look into all of your suggestions!

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@zims okay! With yearly check-ups and stuff it's easier to see how the illness could effect his life and worldview, I would just add that part in somewhere. If what I listed changing works for you then don't worry about fixing it because that's really all that matters.

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@polkadots11
There's not much for me to say!

In mannerisms you say she has "delicate actions around people she doesn't know." I get what you mean by this, but maybe go a bit more into detail about what exactly these delicate actions are.

In motivations, go a bit more into detail about what exactly is motivating her towards wanting to be free of England, and towards fighting for that belief of freedom.

In conditions you say she suffers from PTSD and depression. Try to incorporate these into both her mannerisms and flaws. For mannerisms, how does she look when her PTSD starts to act up? Does she go abnormally still? Does she look dazed? For depression in mannerisms, how does she look and act while in a bad episode. Is she tired all the time? Does she get snappy or moody? And for flaws for depression, does she tend to sleep too much? Does she push others away? Does she have bad hygiene while in these episodes? Does she lack desire to do literally anything?

With her PTSD and the fact she was almost killed with a dagger make her hesitant to fight with daggers? This is just a suggestion, but I feel it would make sense for her to avoid daggers and go with different weapons to fight with.

That's all I have for you luv. Nessa's a really fleshed out character!

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@stolenbrocoli
Cult

For mannerisms, take from his flaws and his personality and turn those into actions. Maybe even his motivations. He's impatient, so how does he look when he gets impatient? Does he tap his foot? His fingers? He's an outsider, so how does he act in ways that separates him from others?

Take his flaws and incorporate them into his personality as well. His bluntness should be in his personality. As well as the fact that he's cynical and quick-tempered.

In his motivations, get a bit more specific. It doesn't necessarily have to be in the motivations category but it should be explained somewhere. Maybe in his background. Why are these the things that are motivating him? Find a way to incorporate them into who he is as a character.

"Speaks kind of properly" is good, but go just a little more into what you mean by this. Because speaking properly in America currently versus speaking properly in England a couple years back are two very different things lmao. Does he speak with a slight accent or lilt? Does he use bigger words?

Talk more about who The Citizens are, why they took him, and what exactly the apocylopse is and how he is preparing for it.

That's really all I have for you!

@polkadots11

@polkadots11
There's not much for me to say!

In mannerisms you say she has "delicate actions around people she doesn't know." I get what you mean by this, but maybe go a bit more into detail about what exactly these delicate actions are.

In motivations, go a bit more into detail about what exactly is motivating her towards wanting to be free of England, and towards fighting for that belief of freedom.

In conditions you say she suffers from PTSD and depression. Try to incorporate these into both her mannerisms and flaws. For mannerisms, how does she look when her PTSD starts to act up? Does she go abnormally still? Does she look dazed? For depression in mannerisms, how does she look and act while in a bad episode. Is she tired all the time? Does she get snappy or moody? And for flaws for depression, does she tend to sleep too much? Does she push others away? Does she have bad hygiene while in these episodes? Does she lack desire to do literally anything?

With her PTSD and the fact she was almost killed with a dagger make her hesitant to fight with daggers? This is just a suggestion, but I feel it would make sense for her to avoid daggers and go with different weapons to fight with.

That's all I have for you luv. Nessa's a really fleshed out character!

Thank you again!

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@Ikinss
Kevin White
First thing I notice is that some of your characters strengths and weaknesses contradict one another. You list his confidence as a strength but that he's dubious in his flaws. These to can work together in some scenarios, but it depends on how you execute it. As in, does he often doubt himself or other people? Maybe get a bit more specific there.

His motivations also contradict with his strengths and weaknesses. You say he's a people pleaser but his traits such as bluntness, arrogance, and abusive all contradict that motive just a bit.

"Being strong" and "being special" aren't really motivations. Maybe specify how exactly he wants to be special, and what strength looks like. Is it a physical or mental thing?

His habits could really just go into his mannerisms, but it doesn't really matter.

Go more in depth in his family situation. You can put this either in the category for his family section or in his background.

I would add in his prejudices, if he's surrounded by close-minded people, I assume he would have some.

In his background, it would be good to add a bit of a backstory to go more into depth as to what has shaped him to be who he is and why his motivations are what they are, why he has the flaws he does, etc. Background is a good place to go more in depth for the character. It would be a good place to mention who exactly "the group" is that you mention in his overview. Go more into how growing up around close-minded people has impacted his life.

That's really all I have for you! He's pretty well developed.