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@Spider-man

(I should clarify. Gender identity and genitals are not the same thing. I believe people should be whatever they feel they are as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone. Though if it really bothers you Alta can be female for this rp.)

(Also this and don’t change your OC. Diversity of all genders is important and a great way for people to learn that non-binary people are normal)

@Low_Mein

(I know that, but it just doesn't make sense lul. Like why can't people just be themselves? How is it possible to identify as something you're not? And I don't mind Alta being 'Non-Binary'. It's fine, but my brain is just a trapdoor jam packed with stupid and usually controversial information that makes me cringe. Also I now realize I cannot write and therefore may not contribute to said rp. My small, weak mind cannot think straight.)

@Low_Mein

(I should clarify. Gender identity and genitals are not the same thing. I believe people should be whatever they feel they are as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone. Though if it really bothers you Alta can be female for this rp.)

(Also this and don’t change your OC. Diversity of all genders is important and a great way for people to learn that non-binary people are normal)

That's where I gotta disagree

@Low_Mein

(1. It’s really more complicated than that. Scientists have seen that its possible for a person to have a female body but a male mind and vice versa. I haven’t heard of a study for non binary people but I blame lack of funding and bias in science. 2. This hasn’t just been going on for “the past few years” trans and non binary people are inverses in multiple different cultures. There are even some countries where into illegal to be gay but being trans in seen as normal and they even have the best medical procedures for it. (I can’t remember what country right now but I saw a book about it)))

Alright here we go. A, what the absolute flying f*ck, B. how in satan's name can a **ing woman have a guys 'mind' and vice versa, C, I didn't say the past few years, I said the past years, indicating any point in history prior to now.

And finally, D. I think I'll be leaving. Thanks for the temporary joy I got out of meeting new friends! I guess it's my toxic f*cking attitude that pushes people away, not me being stupid or unattractive! Ha! Hasta luego!

@Spider-man

(Well they really are. They are normal people who arnt hurting you in any way. they are being themselves. Also don’t pull the “small weak mind” card. You have something called the internet. If you don’t like some of the things you think or if you think they are wrong do some research.)

@Spider-man

(1. It’s really more complicated than that. Scientists have seen that its possible for a person to have a female body but a male mind and vice versa. I haven’t heard of a study for non binary people but I blame lack of funding and bias in science. 2. This hasn’t just been going on for “the past few years” trans and non binary people are inverses in multiple different cultures. There are even some countries where into illegal to be gay but being trans in seen as normal and they even have the best medical procedures for it. (I can’t remember what country right now but I saw a book about it)))

Alright here we go. A, what the absolute flying f*ck, B. how in satan's name can a **ing woman have a guys 'mind' and vice versa, C, I didn't say the past few years, I said the past years, indicating any point in history prior to now.

And finally, D. I think I'll be leaving. Thanks for the temporary joy I got out of meeting new friends! I guess it's my toxic f*cking attitude that pushes people away, not me being stupid or unattractive! Ha! Hasta luego!

(Omg you literally just called yourself toxic. I can’t. I hate people who are like “boo hoo everyone hates me!” And they see the stuff they do they see that the things they say are wrong and they don’t fix themselves. I was going to ask if you want sources or something but if you’re going to act like that then fine leave idc just one more ignorant person in this world)

@MonocarpicCathartic

(I feel like I should apologize on his behalf—I don't think he understands how touchy this subject can be for people who have constantly struggled with gender identity their entire lives. I can't express how much I hate the fact that society has forced the impression that an individual's identity is something to be judged. I also can't take full accountability for his words, since I'm not in any way responsible for him, other than the fact that I asked him to join. I agree that you shouldn't change your oc, @PunsAndShips . And @Spork, that's why I invited you here. To learn to rp. Don't put yourself down—they have a point about the pity card. And don't—just don't put others down. You're being "pushed away" for being close-minded and unaccepting, and just plain rude. They tried to correct you politely with factual evidence, and you responded with anger and cuss words and bullheadedness. I regret saying this to you, since I know you're going to take it to heart, but I really think you need to realize the impact of your actions. I thought it would be fun to rp with you, but instead you've just been rude and insulted a bunch of people that already struggle in a society largely biased against them.)

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@Spork
Sorry to drag you back in here, you can leave again if you want but listen to me.

And @Spider-man you should read it to.

Spork, you’re not “toxic.”
Trust me, I know toxic people. They take what they want from people, manipulate them and leave them behind, and rarely know their own toxicity.
I’m not a complete cinnamon roll, I’ll call you out on bullshit right now. You’re closed minded and unwilling to accept the fact that sometimes people don’t make sense and can’t be categorized into neat little boxes. You push people away by telling yourself it’s your fault even when you haven’t done anything wrong. There’s nothing bad about a debate.
And Spider. That’s where you come in.
Just because people have different opinions doesn’t mean they are automatically bad or wrong. The best way to find the truth is to listen to their point, fully and openly, then compare it to yours kindly. That way neither person is an asshole.

Sorry for the language and lecture, but honestly you guys are acting like preschoolers.

@MonocarpicCathartic

Is there any way we can continue what this thread was meant for? I'm honestly mortified that so much hate managed to circulate in so little time, and though I don't necessarily blame anyone individually, I feel as if a lot of this is better left unsaid, or at least, said in another, more private discussion. Besides, I truly did like this rp idea, and I'd love to continue it.

@Spider-man

(Sorry I didn't mean for what I said to come off that way. I was trying to give spork information but got a little mad by their response. Sorry ya'll and I agree with Mono)

@Low_Mein

You all are right. I shouldn't be toxic. But HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH BOY SPIDER! IF YA WANT TO RIDE THAT TRAIN THEN BE MY GUEST

Other than that, my sweet, caring friends, you guys are sick and awesome and cool, and I will judge you in no way, no matter what or who you are. Sorry for gettin rowdy

@Low_Mein

(Sorry I didn't mean for what I said to come off that way. I was trying to give spork information but got a little mad by their response. Sorry ya'll and I agree with Mono)

Oops, yeah sry

@MonocarpicCathartic

Well, I guess that's almost a resolution. And besides the fact that my nickname is a disease (which under normal circumstances I would totally laugh at, for the record), I can live with it. I'm going to post my response now to the rp, if that's alright and not interrupting anything?

@MonocarpicCathartic

Jensen wandered around the corner to see the small group forming, catching his interest and prompting him to investigate. As he drew closer, he spotted Cade retrieving what looked to be some sort of drawing pad, and decided to stick around for the reveal. "Hey," he greeted, smirking and waving with a two-finger salute. His hair was down today, although the hair tie around his wrist suggested that could change at any moment, especially when he kept playing with it like he was. "What's up?" As typical of him, Jensen didn't bother with an introduction. Most people knew him from the school newspaper or as the photographer for the yearbook, or even the poetry or debate club, if they were into that. Not to mention the reputation he had with nearly all of the faculty at the school.

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“Yo.” Alta waved back at him. “Cade drew a skull.”

@Low_Mein

Nico notices the skull drawing that Cade is holding and joins the group to say hi. "Hey, that looks awesome! Did you draw that?"

@V01DtheFae group

Cade drew out an amazingly detailed picture of two skulls one on each side of the paper one was gory the other had a hole in the side of it's skull that show a scene at night with flowers surrounding it "Sorry it took so long"

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“They’re amazing, Cade. We know you can’t rush art. By the way, how is everyone?”

@V01DtheFae group

"At home or at the hideout?" Cade answered in a hushed but subtle joking in her tone "I'm doin good. I give the same question to y'all as well"

@MonocarpicCathartic

"It's interesting," Jensen commented, examining the detail of the drawings. His own sketches were typically less gruesome, being a fashion designer in the making, but even he could appreciate the time it must've taken her to complete the picture. "Your shading is outstanding, and I love the contrast between the flowers and the skull," he added, glancing away from the drawing to look between the two. He tilted his head at the word 'hideout', but decided not to mention it just yet. He'd wait for Alta to respond, and see if Cade offered any explanation. That decided, he propped a hand against the lockers and began sifting through his messenger bag for something.

@V01DtheFae group

Cade had put a piece of paper towel over the drawing to make sure it didn't smudge and gently put in back in her bag then pulled out her phone and pulled up MediBang and started working on a request drawing she started a few weeks ago