forum The Worst Kinds of Female Characters (Rant)
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So a lot of shows are trying to incorporate diversity into their casts with female or gay or colored characters. I have nothing wrong with the representation, just the way these characters are written, specifically girls. EA announced their latest game, Battlefield 5, a game that takes place in World War 2, would have a female protagonist. Again, I have nothing wrong with this. The issue comes from the fact that they're incorporating diversity into a place that shouldn't have it. Another issue I see is when people brag about their female staff or characters, which is honestly patronizing. Like, really? It feels more like you're giving them a handicap because 'diversity points'. "Hey, you got an F on your Exam, but we'll give you a 90% because you're a woman/ part of a minority." Also, I just wanted to say how annoying it is when characters in media are all like "I'm a strong and independent woman." No one cares. Not everyone likes Princess Leia just because she's a girl. They like her because she's a fun character who gets a lot of good moments, and the fact that she's a girl is just a fraction of the reason.
My point is this: When writing a girl or minority, do not treat them like some special snowflake because of it. Write them how you would any other character.

@HighPockets group

Honestly, some of the best representation I've seen is in kid's shows. Martha Speaks has a boy who's more of a dreamer, girls who like fashion and sports, a clumsy girl, a black boy, boys who like science, a kid who can't read and has his friends help him learn, an Asian boy, a mixed race girl, and the MC's parents are an interracial couple.
Arthur has characters who are autistic, Jewish, Christian (I think, Arthur went to a church service in the Christmas special) dyslexic. There are characters who have food allergies, cancer, nocturnal enuritus, wheelchairs, stutters, blindness, Alzheimers, and ear tubes. Characters are young and old, rich and not rich, and they're all different, but episodes like April 9th and Shelter From The Storm show they can all work together. And they all get some form of development, even minor characters like Molly and Lydia.

@Rvan group

Agreed, I hate it when female characters are all like ‘Hi! I’m female!!! Isn’t that SO cool!” It’s just annoying… I just want plain good characters, regardless of gender/sexuality/race.

Deleted user

Yeah, or the female protagonists that switch from "Strong badass swordswoman" to f**king Cinderella within seconds, just waiting to be saved by the incidentally stereotypically goth and fearsome and mysterious and kind and gentle and a warrior and whatnot that is supposed to normally be a jerk except to his love interest and then ends up just being practically a dead fish sort of a character. It's annoying is what I'm trying to say.

Deleted user

Honestly, some of the best representation I've seen is in kid's shows. Martha Speaks has a boy who's more of a dreamer, girls who like fashion and sports, a clumsy girl, a black boy, boys who like science, a kid who can't read and has his friends help him learn, an Asian boy, a mixed race girl, and the MC's parents are an interracial couple.
Arthur has characters who are autistic, Jewish, Christian (I think, Arthur went to a church service in the Christmas special) dyslexic. There are characters who have food allergies, cancer, nocturnal enuritus, wheelchairs, stutters, blindness, Alzheimers, and ear tubes. Characters are young and old, rich and not rich, and they're all different, but episodes like April 9th and Shelter From The Storm show they can all work together. And they all get some form of development, even minor characters like Molly and Lydia.

I'd just like to say the one thing I remember from Martha speaks was this scene where a kid was telling his friend why he shouldn't be friends with the black kid and he compared the two using white and chocolate milk like dude wtf. Doesn't have much to do with what you were talking about it was just an odd scene I remember way too clearly

@@Wanheda

Oh my god, yes! People tend to throw history out the window when it comes to certain things. It's really important that you research what was going on during certain time periods if you are writing a story that takes place there. Like, a woman wasn't going to be praised and given her own battalion during the Civil War. She wasn't going to make general because she was a good fighter. Realistically, she wasn't going to be on the field as anything other than a nurse and even then it had strings and boundaries attached.

Deleted user

I love diversity, equality and freedom, but I think characters who are only written to be the "black person", "female character", or "gay dude" are a pain in my ass. They're only there to stand out and be put on a pedestal because whoever is in charge wants to seem more progressive and upstanding, even though they're only written as the archetype they are, and their only "personality trait" are being a woman, racial minority or non-straight/cis person, which does the opposite, and makes the person in charge look like a bigger asswad than they already are.

@HighPockets group

The metal bikini fantasy armour. Period

YES! SO ANNOYING!! I mean, even if I was like the hottest woman alive, I would go into battle wearing REAL ARMOR that will PROTECT ME FROM DYING!!!

@Fraust

I'm not part of the LGBTQA+ community myself, but personally, I hate it when people write people of that community as though that's the main thing about them. Like, "Oh yeah this is Jake, he's gay." Being gay shouldn't define them. They're people just as much as any other person/character. JK Rowling confirmed that Dumbledore was gay, but like, you don't hear anyone harping on about it (that is, any of the characters in the books). He's such a wonderful, detailed, and deep character with so much mystery and just… he's wonderfully written, that's what I'm trying to say. His sexuality doesn't define him.