forum lets talk about *controversial things*
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@The-N-U-T-Cracker

Well I'm up for a debate. I just really don't want to say the wrong things and screw up like I normally do

I screw up all the time during debates too, I'm pretty sure everyone does sometimes. But I'm a chicken so I usually just spectate

Deleted user

But uhh why wouldn't they be part of the LGBT+ community?

well, there's an asexual community, I think its called ASPEC or something? and in my opinion, the LGBTQ community has always been about gender/sexuality, and attraction sorta falls under those parameters, I think maybe its better if its separate? idk tho just my opinion

@Starfast group

But uhh why wouldn't they be part of the LGBT+ community?

Take what I say with a grain of salt because I do believe that aros/aces can be part of the LGBT+ community.

Asexuality and aromanticism seem to be a lot less loosely defined than a lot of other sexualities/gender identities that make up the LGBT spectrum. Like, for example, someone who is homosexual is someone who is attracted to the same gender and there's not a lot of space for exceptions.
But with asexuality/aromanticism it's like "Well, some are like this, but others are like that" Like, a lot of it seems to be kind of up for interpretation, if that makes sense. Plus, just from what I can tell, sometimes aces/aros are only attracted to the opposite gender which kinda seems to be the opposite of LGBT+?

Anyways, with all that said, it's not up to me to say who is and isn't part of the LGBT+ community. If any aros/aces want to say they're part of the LGBT community I'm not going to tell you any different, and you're all valid.

@actual-fandom-trash

Well ASPEC isn't a community. It means Ace spectrum as in the spectrum of asexuality. So Ace/Aros don't have their own community. And I think attraction, or lack thereof, falls under sexuality.

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yeah I mean, if an ace person wants to be part of the LGBTQ community, I won't try and stop them, And sorry that I was wrong about the ASPEC thing :(

@HighPockets group

Maleficent is the best Disney Villain.

YES

I see your Maleficent and raise you Hades, Yzma, and Ursula.
Maleficent is lit, I just never really liked Sleeping Beauty

@HighPockets group

okay my hot take: asexuality/ aromanticism aren't part of LGBTQ but are totally valid and appreciated

I actually disagree with you but I don't want to start a big argument

i also disagree but i i love you moony so i dont wanna make you mad

yeah same and I just got in a Pinterest debate about this and I'm not in the mood to argue again

@actual-fandom-trash

yeah I mean, if an ace person wants to be part of the LGBTQ community, I won't try and stop them, And sorry that I was wrong about the ASPEC thing :(

It's okay! And yeah I think most of the controversy is ace/aros who are only attracted (romantically or not) to the opposite gender.

@HighPockets group

Mockingjay is the weakest Hunger Games book and Gale should have died in those sewers.
SJM books are overrated and have many problematic aspects. Also they shouldn't be classified as YA (my sister's friend has read all of ToG and she's only 12….that means she's read 3 books of Fae porn)

@HighPockets group

SHIPPING ISN'T THAT IMPORTANT AND YOU SHOULDN'T ATTACK PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR SHIPS!
Honestly rabid shipping has led me to have a strong dislike for some very popular ships namely Stormpilot
Also everything after the OG Percy Jackson quintet aren't very good and the LGBTQIA+ rep shouldn't be hailed as much as it is.

@Starfast group

Mockingjay is the weakest Hunger Games book and Gale should have died in those sewers.

Agree with the first part, disagree with the second (but maybe that's just because I kind of dislike character deaths).

SHIPPING ISN'T THAT IMPORTANT AND YOU SHOULDN'T ATTACK PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR SHIPS!

THIS SHOULDN'T EVEN BE CONTROVERSIAL????? Just…. let people like things. Or dislike them.
The only exception that I can think of though is ships that are just plain problematic. Things like pedophilia, or incest because that's never ok.

SJM books are overrated

I am prepared to write an entire essay in agreement to this one statement. I couldn't even finish ToG. Never understood the hype.

@HighPockets group

Mockingjay is the weakest Hunger Games book and Gale should have died in those sewers.

Agree with the first part, disagree with the second (but maybe that's just because I kind of dislike character deaths).

SHIPPING ISN'T THAT IMPORTANT AND YOU SHOULDN'T ATTACK PEOPLE BASED ON THEIR SHIPS!

THIS SHOULDN'T EVEN BE CONTROVERSIAL????? Just…. let people like things. Or dislike them.
The only exception that I can think of though is ships that are just plain problematic. Things like pedophilia, or incest because that's never ok.

SJM books are overrated

I am prepared to write an entire essay in agreement to this one statement. I couldn't even finish ToG. Never understood the hype.

I just……..I WANTED FINNICK TO BE HAPPY!!!!!
I agree with the shipping point, I forgot to add that.
YES YES YES 100X YES!

@TeamMezzo group

HOT TAKE!
Dear Evan Hansen is overrated, the music isn't anything special, and Great Comet was robbed at the Tony Awards and should have won!

YES! DEH is an amazing musical, I can't deny that, but there are better shows on the planet! GREAT. COMET. DESERVES. THE. WORLD.

@The-N-U-T-Cracker

Things like pedophilia, or incest because that's never ok.

Please tell that to all the people in the RWBY fandom that ship Ruby x Yang… It’s both pedophilia and incest at the same time…

@m1dn1g7t_ri0ts_13

Things like pedophilia, or incest because that's never ok.

Please tell that to all the people in the RWBY fandom that ship Ruby x Yang… It’s both pedophilia and incest at the same time…

Exactly! They are sisters! That is just wrong!

@HighPockets group

Also, whenever people tear down other ships to push up their own. I see this a lot with Stormpilot (nothing against the shippers, it's just not my ship) shippers who attack people who ship Damerey (also not my ship) and say it's 'homophobic' because 'Poe is gay', even when he hasn't been confirmed as gay. For example, I think Poe is pan, but the second I say it'd be cute for him and Connix to be together given Poe's fanon status as 'Leia's second son' and the fact that Billie is Carrie's irl daughter, the internet explodes.